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I heard a story of a world-renowned hacker who was hired by Microsoft or Apple to help them fight hackers. He knew the field best - and became rich from it. That's called using your skills for the good.

If you are a geek and an expert at bypassing filters, you'd probably make an excellent volunteer on our filter-gabai team. We already have a few qualified technicians who are always on the look-out for the best solutions available, and for ways to prevent people from bypassing their filters.

We would be delighted to welcome you on board!

(Contact me at eyes.guard@gmail.com or filter.tzvi@gmail.com.)
Hashem is truly proud that in such a lowly world, where we often feel like blind beggars stumbling in the dark, we are still able to bring such light to all the upper worlds!

May you continue on this path for the rest of your life.
Very well put Gibbor!

I would add a 4th approach (which is only for addicts though).

4 - To quote Dov: "I do not particularly care exactly which "lav" suicide is. I'm not interested in it for other reasons!"

Rabboisai, the "Welcome Package" above has been updated today, September 13 2011, to reflect the newly updated Handbook, Nutshell and other new links.

I also updated the "text file" that you can use to copy it (see post above this).

Please continue to welcome newcomers with this letter. Thank you!

There may be some obscure poskim that don't hold it's de'oraysah when not preventing child-birth, but what about de'rabanan? What about gemaras that say it's like spilling blood - and shulchan aruch? What about the zohar that says it's from the worst sins? Whoever makes light of divrei chazal is chayav misah!

Anyway, GYE is not about the "sin". It's about the way this takes us away from Hashem, our wives, our goals, and from real life. It's the way we are slaves to the addiction that is the real issue here.

If you are not an addict, this forum is not really for you. But if you enjoy the chart, go ahead  :D
holistic wrote on 11 Sep 2011 07:46:

Your encouragement has been great but it doesn't change the reality of my situation and my nature. How do I know I'm just not fighting against something thats just unchangeable...a kind of useless struggle...tilting against windmills.


Have you read GYE in a nutshell? If what you've been trying until now is not enough, there are many more things you can try. There's no such thing as giving up. On GYE we know that there is a way out for EVERYONE who wants.
Thanks for the insightful, humble and honest update.

You're a beautiful Jew.
black bigday wrote on 07 Sep 2011 20:46:

Some people have a bad hair day.  I think I'm having a bad gilgul. 


That's as funny as it's sad  ;D  :'(

In the old days I would have a field-day with all these great (typical) questions of yours, and I would answer each of them in depth, but unfortunately, I don't have the time these days... That's why we created the GYE handbook. All of your questions are answered there, and the latest versioncan be downloaded here.



1.  I'm having trouble wrapping my head around a comparison between acholol addiction and lust addiction.  Seeing women is always there, and it can't be stopped.  I assume most men look at a women they think is attractive, and fantisize about them on some level.  Is everyone then an addict?  Sure, there are levels, but the idea isn't clicking with me.  Everyone agrees being drunk on the job is unacceptable.  Society doesn't relate to porn like that (they are wrong and distorted- but I'm saying it is not like being drunk).  All women want to be admired, that is how they function.  The man is hardwired to relate to that.


See Principle 21 in the back of the handbook: "Understanding what we're up against".



2. What does Hashem want from me?  Why build me and raise me in an environment where by the time I am an adult I am a totally nutcase pervert?  I go to sleep with this and I wake up with this, and almost every woman I see restarts the whole process.  Why, what, and how?


That good question too, is answered in the first couple of principles in the back - under "Attitude & Perspective"



3.For me, it seems more about imagination (dimyon) then lust.  I am imagination addicted, which gravitates towards aryos.  Can anyone relate to that?


Of-course we relate to that! 98% of lust is through koach hadimyon. Rav Nachman says that the name of the Yetzer Hara today is "dimyon"...



4.Has anyone noticed that the major points on this website are straight out of Breslov thinking? Hope, Simcha, Starting Over, Being with Hashem when falling, ect.  Yes, these ideas are all over the Torah, but Rebbi Nachman focused on them and refined them to a science.  I have started learning Breslov for the past couple of years, otherwise I am the cold, learning, yechay, litvak type.  But I find it amazing that when dealing with the issuce of aryos (which Breslov does all the time), Rebbi Nachman's teaching seem to surface.


Yes, although we quote a lot from everywhere - litvish, chassidish, chabad, etc... Breslov comes up a lot here. (Hey, I just mentioned R' Nachman above  ;D)... Click here to download a booklet of GYE quotes, articles, etc... taken from Breslov teachings.



Thanks for creating this forum and allowing me to get chizuk and understanding from you all,


Anytime. 
Thanks for sharing this story... Hashem indeed loves you like crazy and is sending you messages...

We had a guy on this forum once who posted how he prepared for a big trip to another country just for lust purposes, and as they took off an engine caught fire and they made an emergency landing. He was so shaken by the message that stopped all his acting out behavior for a year and became a big masmid, etc... Unfortunately, even  with such a strong message, the addiction came back full force about a year later... He tried going to a prostitute and the car wouldn't start... another strong message, but he ended up getting it to start and went anyway.

This addiction is so strong that often messages alone are not enough for the long term, as some people above have posted. It's an inside job. We need some real change.

Are you working the steps with our phone conferences?

P.S. I took out some unnecessary descriptions from your story, like the names of which mags you wanted to buy, and which one you ended up buying, etc... No need for that on this forum, I'm sure you understand. 
yehoshua wrote on 06 Sep 2011 07:23:

I carry a little paper with me at all times to use when I am triggered , lustfull. It says:

YELL GEWALT, SOHN G-TTES IN GEFAHR, NICHT DER WEG DES TODES, NUR HEUTE NICHT if I feel I can't do it, if i am too tiredm if i hvae lustfull thoughts, if i feel self pity, fear, lust, lazyness, sadness...


I love those different "States" you describe. Thank you.

May I ask what the above words mean? Is it German? I tried Google translate and it said: "YELL OF GOD, GOD'S SON IN DANGER, NOT THE WAY OF DEATH, NOT ONLY TODAY"

And what do you mean by "pray to the saints"? Are you Jewish? If not, you are still more than welcome here - I'm just curious...  ;D
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