Trouble wrote on 03 Jan 2017 04:38:
I just realized that the word עבירה comes from the root עברה (pregnant/expand). The lust and "הנאה" from the aveira will be even greater than you initially intended.
The word מצוה is similar to the word מצוי (squeeze). The sechar and happiness of a mitsvah, on the other hand, will be less than expected and it will squeeze the life out of you.
The above (which I wrote) is wrong, stupid and silly.
Looks like "Trouble" is trying to stir up some trouble 
But I will also try to twist his words into emes, and combine the two ideas.
The word עבירה comes from the root עברה (pregnant/expand). The Yetzer Hara tells us that the lust and "הנאה" from the aveira will be even greater than you initially intended. However, the word עבירה also comes from the root עבר (past). The lust and "הנאה" from the aveira is transient. It will be gone with the past faster than you can say "Shalom Aleicha Rabbi."
The word מצוה is similar to the word מצוי (squeeze). The Yetzer Hara tries to convince us that the sechar and happiness of a mitsvah will be far less than expected and it will squeeze the life out of you. But the word מצוה is similar to the word מצוי (found). The sechar and happiness of a mitsvah will stay with you both in this world and the next!
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cordnoy wrote on 26 Dec 2016 18:57:
How did we get from 10,000 members two weeks ago to "nobody usin' the site" now?
What's to understand, people don't sleep? We have 10,000 sleeping members!
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unanumun wrote on 26 Dec 2016 21:30:
"GYE is offering this opportunity for free to y'all and no one is taking advantage of this?! I am shocked. I think we may as well just close down GYE. It seems no one is using the site anymore."
Unanumun, please forgive me. You are right, I shouldn't have used such language. I was just a little shocked when Dov called me today that no one called in.
You are a wonderful GYE success story, and we all salute you. The whole GYE would have been worth it for you alone! Halevai more of our members should be like you. Keep up the good work!
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cordnoy wrote on 26 Dec 2016 20:26:
So, my point bein' especially Reb Guard, you can't have it both ways. Are people readin' this gonna flock to his calls? They are on GYE. Joinin' Dov (which might be a great thing for some or many) means gettin' off GYE. Bein' on GYE means that one is not prepared or ready for Dov's recovery method. If you are advocatin' for Dov's call, you might wanna stand outside the meetin' places. If you are advocatin' for GYE, then Dov's call is not the place for you.
Dov and I play "good cop, bad cop". But we're both on the same team  . You see, we want people to come to GYE, play around while staying in hiding, get slowly comfortable, learn about recovery, and then start getting real.
You can't play a game without having someone play against you. But we're both playing the same game.
Woops. I just gave out the secret. 
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Markz wrote on 26 Dec 2016 18:06:
I'm not a call guy - wasn't on last week, but I guess there are also guys that were considering if they want to get real and give Dov a real call so they join his private call, and they're not ready for that yet
I don't know if you read a recent Dov post that many are trying to stay in hiding on this forum, and each will come out in his time, like the flask of oil
Seems you are confusing his "Desperadoes call" with the new morning call. The new call doesn't require getting "real" and calling Dov before hand. You can just listen in, or send in your questions before hand.
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Guys, we have a treasure on GYE, right in our own backyard, and no one is using it!
Dov, who is sober in SA for almost 20 years, and who has the experience of speaking with thousands of struggling Yidden these past 20 years, is right here on GYE offering to speak with you for an entire hour everyday from 8am - 9am EST. (See more info on the call here).
You can discuss your deepest fears and secrets with Dov on the call, or send him your questions beforehand at wequithiding2@gmail.com.
Last week we had some nice calls, you can listen to recordings here. But today, this Monday, there was NO ONE on the call! WHAT?? Do you guys realize what an incredible opportunity this is?? Dov is worth his weight in gold! In MNSHO, he is wiser, more experienced and better than any therapist, and GYE is offering this opportunity for free to y'all and no one is taking advantage of this?! I am shocked. I think we may as well just close down GYE. It seems no one is using the site anymore.    
And don't talk to me about sleeping-in late on Chanukah. Tell that excuse to the Greeks.
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Guys, we have a treasure on GYE, right in our own backyard and no one is using it!
Dov, who is sober in SA for almost 20 years, and who has the experience of speaking with thousands of struggling Yidden these past 20 years, is right here on GYE offering to speak with you for an entire hour everyday from 8am - 9am EST. (See more info on the call here).
You can discuss your deepest fears and secrets with Dov on the call, or send him your questions beforehand at wequithiding2@gmail.com.
Last week we had some nice calls, you can listen to recordings here. But today, this Monday, there was NO ONE on the call! WHAT?? Do you guys realize what an incredible opportunity this is?? Dov is worth his weight in gold! In MNSHO, he is wiser, more experienced and better than any therapist, and GYE is offering this opportunity for free to y'all and no one is taking advantage of this?! I am shocked. I think we may as well just close down GYE. It seems no one is using the site anymore.    
And don't talk to me about sleeping-in late on Chanukah. Tell that excuse to the Greeks.
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Hi Guys! Welcome to group 196. The members of this group are: - quiet
- Mober
- hopeful
- shua73
- Happydays
- will Succeed Beh
- Jacobinthewomb
- LifneiHashem
- Baruch_Hashem
- vmoshe
- failedregent
- Shzal
- Hbowman
- AllForHashem
- new leaf
See this page for more details on the goals of these groups. For best chances of success, everyone needs to try and fulfill certain conditions. See the conditions here. So who will be the first to volunteer to lead this group? Post below and let's get the party rolling! איש את רעיהו יעזרו ולאחיו יאמר חזק Hatzlacha! P.S. We are looking forward to hearing feedback from y'all about ways to make the group idea even better. Write to us please at: eyes.guard@gmail.com.
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Oy, such a tragic story! The most tragic part of all is that it took SO LONG to learn that you are a sex addict and to find the SA groups. But B"H you're in a good place now, sober one day at a time.
Your story is heartbreaking but inspiring. It's inspiring that even someone with such a powerful and advanced addiction can find freedom through the steps. What a miracle!
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