Tzadikel Yossele wrote on 19 Aug 2011 00:46:
my mind started swirling again with all kinds of fantasies about this woman or that 1, and i start to recall how much pleasure actual physical contact with these woman gave me, of course now i know that its all short term and that in the long term i will regret it & that it would destroy everything that i worked so hard for the past few years ... the problem is that this only makes sense on paper, my brain doesn't buy this anymore, for some reason it ignores it.
I once heard Harvey speak. He is one of the founders of SA. And he spoke about what you mention here. It is a mechanism of addiction that makes us remember the good and forget the bad. It's called euphoric recall. The eitza is that we need to try and remember the bad parts as well, and associate the memory with the bad parts. And the bad parts are the
real truth, because if it was so good, why did we need it again so soon afterward? When we eat a good steak, we don't feel desire for another good steak for at least a few days! So why do we need it again so fast? Because the bad parts, like the time we wasted, the smells, the money, the damage we caused, that is the REAL truth. Remember the smells of the feet, the smells of the semen, etc... And most of all, remember how BAD and DISGUSTED you felt AFTERWARDS.
[quote]there are people who struggle here about not looking on the street on a frum woman who is dressed top to bottom, and I AM the one who is CLEAN ? so yeah, GUE YOU RUINED MY WORLD for me, i take a look at myself now i see a guy who is living in a tiny little bubble, satisfying himself with self destructive behavior while patting himself on the back by saying, HEY buddy you are doing a great job because at least you are not actually having a relationship with a married woman ! pathetic :-[, i know. :-X[/quote]
We take pride in ruining people's worlds in such ways ;D
so i guess my question to you guys here is, where do i go from here ? what do i need to do ? and how do i do it?
You mentioned that you were in therapy and meetings. Why did you stop the meetings, did you think you are "cured"? Unfortunately, the nature of addiction is that the neuron pathways we blazed into our brains may never go away. While we can learn to close the door on them, they are still there. When we start taking the "first drink" and opening the door, the pathways revert back to the same strength as before.
The concept of using porn so "I don't do worse things" is a common mistake that addicts make. Unfortunately, it is the exact opposite. By "feeding it" through porn, we are just making it stronger. The more we feed it, the more we need it - as chaza"l tell us. And using these images and having "sex with self" just makes the monster grow bigger and we can c'v find ourselves back at square one, even with the worst behaviors that we thought we were trying to "stop ourselves from".
To get back on track, see our standard welcoming post
here.
I also highly suggest you read our handbook - and
get back into meetings!