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Re: Humpty Dumpty 22 Mar 2024 17:33 #410621

Is there any fairy tale that has a "good" moral?

Little red riding hood - if you do chesed people will try to kill you
Snow White - parents hate you and your only solution is to find a prince who will deux ex machina all problems away because you look good in your sleep.
Sleeping beauty- really horrible things randomly happen but a prince will save you because you look good in your sleep (takah this one might be how I live my life)
You can do this with any fairy tale. 

At least the modern equivalent that is children's cartoons don't pretend to have morals. Like Spongebob - just a truly absurd meaningless conglomeration of sound and pictures (does spongebob still exist?)
We are not the same people we once were. We are not so locked into our urges that we have no choice. We can choose to give in or choose to win this battle today. We do not want to give in, the pleasure of giving in is false. 
With Hashem on our side our victory is inevitable; the only way we can lose is by giving up on playing the game.

Re: Humpty Dumpty 22 Mar 2024 17:37 #410622

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This whole discussion is way to teef for the JHF section. Move it to the Bais Medrash!
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Re: Humpty Dumpty 24 Mar 2024 13:33 #410637

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Gevura Shebyesod wrote on 22 Mar 2024 17:37:
This whole discussion is way to teef for the JHF section. Move it to the Bais Medrash!

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This thread ent waaaayy off tangent.
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Re: Humpty Dumpty 24 Mar 2024 13:35 #410638

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chooseurname wrote on 22 Mar 2024 17:33:
Is there any fairy tale that has a "good" moral?

Little red riding hood - if you do chesed people will try to kill you

I asked my Rov this was his reply

"Little Red Riding Hood" offers several timeless lessons that can be interpreted through various lenses, including the struggle against desires and the dangers of addiction. A moral that resonates with the theme of resisting temptation, especially in the context of lust or addiction, revolves around the importance of self-awareness and the vigilance needed to guard against deceit and harmful impulses.

In the tale, Little Red Riding Hood is given specific instructions by her mother to stay on the path and go directly to her grandmother's house. However, she is tempted off the path by the wolf, who represents danger and deceit. This diversion can be likened to the lure of addictive behaviors or desires, which often promise satisfaction or adventure but lead away from safety and well-being.

The wolf's deception and eventual confrontation with Little Red Riding Hood serve as a powerful allegory for the dangers of succumbing to temptation. Just as the wolf disguises himself to prey upon the unsuspecting girl, so too can addictive desires masquerade as harmless or enticing, leading individuals away from their goals and into peril.

From this, we can derive a moral about the importance of adhering to one's principles and remaining vigilant against the allure of harmful desires. It teaches the value of listening to wise counsel, being aware of the consequences of our choices, and the importance of recognizing and resisting deceitful temptations that may lead us astray. This story underscores the necessity of self-discipline and the courage to face and overcome challenges, reinforcing the message that true strength lies in the ability to stay true to one's path and values, even in the face of seductive distractions.
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Re: Humpty Dumpty 25 Mar 2024 13:38 #410655

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parev wrote on 24 Mar 2024 13:33:

Gevura Shebyesod wrote on 22 Mar 2024 17:37:
This whole discussion is way to teef for the JHF section. Move it to the Bais Medrash!

Totally Maskim
This thread ent waaaayy off tangent.

Ich bin maskim oz si iz teef
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Re: Humpty Dumpty 26 Mar 2024 16:52 #410722

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Happy to see the oilam having so much fun. And learning to stay away from harmful influences
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