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Re: Important Variances Regarding Parve Cholent & Beer 21 Nov 2014 01:19 #243821

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Ketchup without the Lukshin
PBJ without the bread
Salsa without the chips
Jellybeans without the black

...now I'm hungry...
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Re: Important Variances Regarding Parve Cholent & Beer 21 Nov 2014 01:21 #243822

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Bigmoish wrote:
Can we have the full Pareve recipe in time for tonight's cholent? Or is it only for those well versed in Shas and Poskim?

a short quiz is in order
1 - How many times is Rami Bar Chama mentioned in Shas?
2 - What daf has the longest tosfos on average throughout shas?
3 - Who is Pursi Shanmag?
if you can answer those you will be eligible to get the recipe*


*as long as you are over 40, went to the mikva in the past year, wear tefilin of Shimusha Rabba and regularly practice tikun chatzos
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Last Edit: 21 Nov 2014 01:22 by ZemirosShabbos.

Re: Important Variances Regarding Parve Cholent & Beer 21 Nov 2014 01:25 #243823

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Forget it! I'm putting fleish AND beer in the chulent and that's that!
אלא יש לו לייחד כל מעשיו לשמו הגדול לבד, ולא ישתף עמו דבר אחר
That's the goal. The key to everything. Working on it, bs"d.

Re: Important Variances Regarding Parve Cholent & Beer 21 Nov 2014 01:29 #243824

MendelZ wrote:
Forget it! I'm putting fleish AND beer in the chulent and that's that!


Then you need to change the sign on the store from בשר כשר to בשר שכר
Last Edit: 21 Nov 2014 01:31 by Machshovo Tova.

Re: Important Variances Regarding Parve Cholent & Beer 21 Nov 2014 01:30 #243825

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Re: Important Variances Regarding Parve Cholent & Beer 21 Nov 2014 01:38 #243828

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Machshovo Tova wrote:
MendelZ wrote:
Forget it! I'm putting fleish AND beer in the chulent and that's that!


Then you need to change the sign on the store from בשר כשר to בשר שכר


אגב, כדאי להעיר ש'בשר שכר' עולה בגי' ל'ברית קודש', חושבנא דדין כחושבנא דדין
אלא יש לו לייחד כל מעשיו לשמו הגדול לבד, ולא ישתף עמו דבר אחר
That's the goal. The key to everything. Working on it, bs"d.

Re: Important Variances Regarding Parve Cholent & Beer 21 Nov 2014 01:51 #243830

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weird, i always thought it was gimatria 'bagels and lox'
Sometimes life is like tuna with not enough mayonaise
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Give, Forgive
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Re: Important Variances Regarding Parve Cholent & Beer 21 Nov 2014 01:56 #243832

MendelZ wrote:

אגב, כדאי להעיר ש'בשר שכר' עולה בגי' ל'ברית קודש', חושבנא דדין כחושבנא דדין


WOW!!!! I guess I'll need to try that recipe this Shabbat.

Re: Important Variances Regarding Parve Cholent & Beer 21 Nov 2014 02:01 #243833

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Q: Technically, as long as you are using בשר כשר you get the same segulah as בשר שכר. Does that mean I can make a chulent with teife fleish but with beer and its a segulah for "bris kodesh?"

A: Only if the light is coming from a source outside the room.
אלא יש לו לייחד כל מעשיו לשמו הגדול לבד, ולא ישתף עמו דבר אחר
That's the goal. The key to everything. Working on it, bs"d.

Re: Important Variances Regarding Parve Cholent & Beer 21 Nov 2014 02:08 #243834

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what about if the eruv is down?
Sometimes life is like tuna with not enough mayonaise
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Give, Forgive
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The reason I'm acting as if I'm pregnant, is because I'm expecting. I should be accepting.
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Re: Important Variances Regarding Parve Cholent & Beer 21 Nov 2014 02:27 #243836

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There is no Eruv!!!
!אנא עבדא דקודשא בריך הוא

וּבְיָדְךָ כֹּחַ וּגְבוּרָה וּבְיָדְךָ לְגַדֵּל וּלְחַזֵּק לַכֹּל


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Re: Important Variances Regarding Parve Cholent & Beer 21 Nov 2014 02:33 #243837

Cholent needs no eiruv. It's נושא את נושאיו - like a gas balloon.

Re: Important Variances Regarding Parve Cholent & Beer 21 Nov 2014 02:35 #243838

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ZemirosShabbos wrote:
If you struggle with eating parve cholent, either because it's 'parve-cholent-tuesday' in yeshiva, because the kollel budget mandates it or the local cattle have migrated to gentler climes, fear not.

Our resident mekubal and cholent chef, Mr. Isidore Wide E. Nuff, CCC-FB (certified cholent chef - fatso bela"z) has determined based on extensive research on hebrewbooks.org and copious hours of studying at the feet of Fetter Geegle that the same rectifications and supernal unifications achieved by fleishige cholent can be reached through parve cholent, with a small caveat. You must put in a six-pack of quality beer. What constitutes quality beer and what is inferior and should be avoided is beyond the scope of this dissertation and will not be addressed in the interests of national security.

I beleive ther is a taus sofer, and it should read:
the same rectifications and supernal unifications achieved by fleishige cholent can be reached through parve cholent, with a small caveat. You must put in drink a six-pack of quality beer before ingesting the cholent.

I beleive, this answers all the kushios, lechaim!
Last Edit: 21 Nov 2014 02:35 by gibbor120.

Re: Important Variances Regarding Parve Cholent & Beer 21 Nov 2014 02:44 #243840

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Machshovo Tova wrote:
Cholent needs no eiruv. It's נושא את נושאיו - like a gas balloon.


sorry for a newcomer to comment.

Every BUNDEL in the Chulent creates a Malach, Motzei Shabbos they sing Zemiros.
הסיבה שיש דברים קשים העוברים עליך היא בגלל שהאדם חושב כי "אני עומד" שהוא מנהל הכל,
ברגע שיתן הכנעה כי השי"ת מנהיג הכל אז כבר אפשר להתמודד עם הקשיים. שמעתי מאדם גדול

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Last Edit: 21 Nov 2014 02:44 by belmont4175.

Re: Important Variances Regarding Parve Cholent & Beer 21 Nov 2014 04:09 #243844

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People who eat parve cholent don't drink beer.
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