doorknob wrote on 24 Jan 2017 01:45:

I don't want to spoil your party, but has this helped you have only clean thoughts during davening?

Or is it the davening what keeps your mind in focus, in that case maybe sing and daven the whole day ;-)

No I am not trolling .
I came up with this gartel idea today and i thought i would share it with others on this forum.
I brought a gartel today for $3.50 and i am going to find out if  it works

doorknob wrote on 24 Jan 2017 02:13:

Why did you share the cost with us?

I am sharing the cost with you .
So if one of you decides to follow me and buy a gartel they will have some idea what it should cost

doorknob wrote on 24 Jan 2017 02:22:

Ok 

And in my opinion the subconscious reason of gart'ling is that most of us look for easy inexpensive ways out of lust

No major change necessary to a daily schedule. It's $3.50 and you're set for life

If you're interested in real recovery that really works it'll cost only 10 cents

2 cents from me, and 8 more from another 4 sexaholics

You can't get a better deal

doorknob wrote on 24 Jan 2017 01:05:

ok let's step it up a notch. Let's review a minhag of the Torah... yup... a d'Oiraisa!!! 

Tzitzis

And I don't need a meforash to unlock the hidden pshat. Hashem does it for me.
Lo Sasuru Acharei l'Vavchem v'Acharei Eineichem.

So if I wear Tzitzis then I shouldn't stray from the straight 'n narrow.
And I wear them all day!

Though why do I only notice them out of the corner of my eye as I'm rushing for the zip in my pants?
Isn't it guaranteed to help?

Just my two cents. Now you only need 6 cents more : -)

Tzitzit always helped me tremendously.

Until it was time to act out...

I hate to burst your bubble but there were many times that while wearing a gartel and even during shmona esreh i closed my eyes and imagined very inappropriate images. I even acted out when i was a bochur saying tikun leil hoshana rabba while wearing a gartel. If you have some magic gartel you will be able to sell it for alot more than $3.50.  But i wish you hatzlocha in your recovery and hope you will stay connected so you can share whatever really works for you.

Hashem Help Me wrote on 24 Jan 2017 20:18:

And with tzitzis on.

AndI while learnin'.

And after shema al hamitah.

And in the mikvah.

And durin' shelichus.

And while talkin' to my sponsor.

cordnoy wrote on 24 Jan 2017 22:13:

And while talking to my rebbi............

cordnoy wrote on 24 Jan 2017 22:13:

I acted out with Tzitzis, Tallis, Kittel in Ne'ilah in Meah She'arim on Shidduchim in front of her father and the gedolei ha'Dor.

Ah. Because I forgot my gartel.



The mikvah? Hope it's not a mixed mikvah. Think of the potential mamzerim.

GrowStrong wrote on 24 Jan 2017 08:06:

always pulled mine off before popping in to the MP/Prosty...

ilovehashem247 wrote on 06 Sep 2024 03:56:

Interesting observation 

Interesting old topic. I think that just because ppl have acted out even in the presence, or whilst engaging with, holy people or articles, doesn't prove that it is not a help. Same with gartel and tzitzis. It can, and should, help you control your thoughts and actions, to a point. 

But I think an underlying message here is that real progress needs real work. 

I heard in a shiur from Rabbi Fischer, how do you know that a long beard is not a proof of yiras Shamayim? Because growing a long beard is passive, just don't trim your beard. That is not real work. Becoming a Yarei Shamayim necessitates real work.

So go ahead, wear Tzitzis, and a gartel! But also do more work.

frank.lee wrote on 07 Sep 2024 23:10:

What does it say about my yirat shamayim if I trim my beard while wearing only a tzitzit and gartel?