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Re: Relapse, staying clean until yeshiva 28 Aug 2020 19:15 #354332

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Hello. Been poking around here and I like what i see...

I think the right perspective in the context of Teshuva is that succumbing to my temptation in this area (in particular, but this is true of aveiros more generally) impede my ability to connect to HaShem. (That should be the underlying motivation to stop, although it cannot serve as the only one, for obvious reasons).

So when a Jew decided to stop following his yetzer and takes practical steps to hold him at bay, that is the greatest Teshuva possible.

The בעל התניא writes in his אגרת התשובה פרק א that

״מצות התשובה מן התורה היא עזיבת החטא בלבד״.

Meaning that all other elements that we associate with Teshuva (viduy etc.) are only to enhance or complete the Teshuva.

So if you spend this month of Elul telling yourself and HaShem sincerely that “I am committed to stopping “-that itself is the greatest Teshuva possible.

If you want to read more about the proper perspective regarding the relationship of Teshuva to this struggle, there was a good thread about it recently. Don’t remember what it was called, shouldn’t be to hard to find...

I am a bochur with a passion for meaning and truth, searching to remain clean and live a holy and fulfilling life.

If you are reading this-you have a friend in me.
Feel free to PM me and I'll share my offline contact information, so we can call and text. I'd be honored if you'd trust me with your story and promise to support you in any way I possibly can.
I've been on GYE for over 7 years. "I may walk slow, but I never walk back" (-Abraham Lincoln?).
(For the background and meaning of my username- see Tanya chapter 15).

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Re: Relapse, staying clean until yeshiva 02 Sep 2020 00:08 #354507

Hashem Help Me Current streak: 2918 days OFFLINE Platinum Boarder Posts: 4059	At this stage it would appear teshuva is to do whatever possible to protect yourself. Setting up filters and other gedarim to stay clean. Getting a GYE mentor. All this announces to Hashem that the individual wants to be good.
	Feel free to contact me at michelgelner@gmail.com My threads: Lessons Learned: guardyoureyes.com/forum/20-Important-Threads/335248-Lessons-Learned My Story and G-d Bless GYE: guardyoureyes.com/forum/17-Balei-Battims-Forum/303036-My-story-and-G-d-bless-GYE

Re: Relapse, staying clean until yeshiva 09 Sep 2020 14:45 #354816

yeshivaguy Current streak: 6 days OFFLINE Platinum Boarder Posts: 1493 Karma: 148	@onthewayup, how have you been?

Re: Relapse, staying clean until yeshiva 11 Sep 2020 00:39 #354898

onthewayup Current streak: 263 days OFFLINE Junior Boarder Posts: 25 Karma: 3	@yeshivaguy Hey there, Thanks for checking up. I am short on time but feel obliged to respond. I am good. I am only 7 days clean. Had a fell last week. That was after a 20something day streak. So I am on-the-way-up I hope. I am trying set up for future tests and preparing. This is a type of teshuvah. Thanks again.

Re: Relapse, staying clean until yeshiva 11 Sep 2020 01:18 #354903

yeshivaguy Current streak: 6 days OFFLINE Platinum Boarder Posts: 1493 Karma: 148	onthewayup wrote on 11 Sep 2020 00:39: I am on-the-way-up I couldn’t agree more Keep it up buddy!

Re: Relapse, staying clean until yeshiva 11 Sep 2020 03:12 #354915

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onthewayup wrote on 11 Sep 2020 00:39:

@yeshivaguy
Hey there,
Thanks for checking up. I am short on time but feel obliged to respond.
I am good. I am only 7 days clean. Had a fell last week. That was after a 20something day streak. So I am on-the-way-up I hope. I am trying set up for future tests and preparing. This is a type of teshuvah.
Thanks again.

Please change your choice of wording. What does "only" 7 days clean mean? 7 days is a major accomplishment. There were times that i truly believed that it was actually impossible to be clean for more than 2 and a half days. Please phrase it "I am BH 7 days clean and b'ezras Hashem moving forward."

Feel free to contact me at michelgelner@gmail.com

My threads: Lessons Learned: guardyoureyes.com/forum/20-Important-Threads/335248-Lessons-Learned

My Story and G-d Bless GYE: guardyoureyes.com/forum/17-Balei-Battims-Forum/303036-My-story-and-G-d-bless-GYE

Re: Relapse, staying clean until yeshiva 21 Sep 2020 21:37 #355297

onthewayup Current streak: 263 days OFFLINE Junior Boarder Posts: 25 Karma: 3	@hashem help me Yes I should say I am now 17 days clean and going strong, moving forward However, I probably picked up the wording from the GYE update page where it says "I am still clean".

Re: Relapse, staying clean until yeshiva 22 Sep 2020 18:48 #355326

Meyer M. OFFLINE Gold Boarder Posts: 257 Karma: 16	onthewayup wrote on 21 Sep 2020 21:37: @hashem help me Yes I should say I am now 17 days clean and going strong, moving forward However, I probably picked up the wording from the GYE update page where it says "I am still clean". Admin? Are you getting this? Time for a update!
	Your best teacher for success is your last mistake

Re: Relapse, staying clean until yeshiva 28 Feb 2021 04:17 #364312

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I am long overdue in an update. I am 26 days clean. I have had some rough times recently a few weeks ago falling twice. I am short on time and hopefully I will write again soon but, I want to share one idea. That is; HAVE A FILTER. Preferably one that is foolproof, one that takes screenshots and someone who will oversee it. The reason I am saying this is because all my falls have happened on other devices when I am weak and get my hands on them. I am too ashamed to fall on my regular computer. I am comfortable to be alone with my computer and get work done. Of course being around others is better but this protection is so important. The shame and embarrassment hold me back.I will try again soon, sorry for waiting so long...