I don't really follow the last 2 posts if they were being sarcastic

What do you guys want

Im planning to read and comment on the Handbook and White book for myself and anyone that wants to follow

Someone else has a Mesilas Yesharim thead... Each to his own

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My comment regarding Taphsic has nothing to do with reading the handbook

I know where you both stand regarding recommending it for other members, it's never encouraged

Theorising where the other 9,500 other users is cool
They probably all use the "good night calendar" ROTFL

I made a fair comment, which has not sensibly been answered. 

"Why is Taphsic featured in the dropdown"
What about "Exercise"

If there are other broadly practiced proven tools that can show there?

Simple question
Admin for sure knows more than I do

Does anyone have what to comment on what I wrote? Is it a fabrication that there are those who think the following "If gye recommended it, it must be a viable tool, so i'll try it, and try it, and try it again"

Here is what you wrote:

The new thread will have critical notes of the 2 books. Primarily listing what pages we feel are beneficial, and critiquing ones that we feel are, how shall we say nicely - 'dumb'

It'll be open to the public, but you get a personal invite. Your posts today have given me a greater drive to get on with this, and I have a hunch may be beneficial to you

Let me know if youre interested joining me in this venture.

I am sorry, but a song by Elle comes to mind.

"Critical notes"!? And as an intro, you unequivocally state that you'll critique those pages that you feel are dumb. That is mighty haughty of you. And I apologize again, and this is being written here out of respect and because you invest so much time into your recovery and helping others and you are a great resource for those who are attempting to recover. It's like the 12th grader heading into the rosh yeshiva's shiur, posting a sign on the luach that he will be giving a nightly chaburah pointing out all the flaws in the rosh yeshiva's logic and mehalech in the sugya.

I only went thru the white book 8, 9 or 10 times, so I am no expert. Some things I don't like and I am not shy about it, but I don't give an intro to the call that I will be critiquing the book and demonstrating where their vision or direction is stupid and dumb.

My apologies again. Please write what you feel. That is what a forum is about. We all have our recovery and sobriety in mind, and of course the recovery and sobriety of all of klal yisroel.

Yasherkoach for all that you do.
You help many, and may that be a zechus for you and your family.

א גוטן יום טוב

Thanks Gut YT to you too

I'll promote you anytime!

I'm going to keep my little head out from between the mountains here, but I just wanted to point out that in the context in which it was used, "critical" and "criticizing" do not mean the same thing. 

My personal feelings about the books are that the white book is a peirush from a controversial acharon and the big book is (I DO NOT MEAN THIS LITERALLY) torah min hashamayim. I do not relate to a significant portion of the white book, as do many others. Hence SAA which has their own literature. My sponsor runs a big book program anyways, which I feel very much connected to.

Regarding the White book, I don't remember any details from the book, but it was an eye-opener and very helpful for me vis-a-vis lusting for my wife.

Regarding the Taphsic, I believe is a גאון'ישע כאפ

You wrote במקו"א:

A Taphsic by any other name seems to be a Taphsic,
and I don't know why you say it's for emergencies.
לא ירדתי לסוף דעתך

What's there not to work about a Taphsic? (Of course, without an attitude change and other tools you may go crazy, just like white knuckling.., but if i may add כמו שכתבתי במקו"א that after I made a taphsic, psychologically, for many months, those behaviors were totally off limits for me.)

 

cordnoy wrote on 28 Apr 2016 16:33:

wrong singer.

 

I'm missing something

Thank Gd the forums are quiet today

We are all working on recovery in groups / emails / etc..

Keep on Trucking

markz wrote on 10 May 2016 20:04:

Really? How come i didn't see anything! 

Btw, that clip is awesome. Who ever said that trucking was easy.

abie wrote on 02 May 2016 21:54:

I'm surprised other's didn't see the difference
The "Good night device" calendar is for me  a "Heker" as the handbook calls a filter
I wasnt lusting / fantasizing when I shut my computer 30 min ago. It's a simple fence that keeps me far far away from illicit situations

Whereas Taphsic is designed for lust attacks. It is a g'oinishe chap for such a situation, but I don't believe it's a viable long term "single standing solution" for someone with a low level addiction like myself, or a stronger addiction

I have not done taphsic, and i don't wanna



(Maybe when i get rich)

So...

I slipped but didn't fall according to the 90 day rules

I personally would restart my count, but since counting isn't a big tool for me I'm not gonna hit restart if it's not a fall

This happened last Tuesday in the middle of the night when my mind wasn't fully at its prime. I believe a Taphsic may help me for such a infrequent situation, but I'm afraid of Taphsic's...