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Re: Bein hazmanim letter from Yeshivas 08 Sep 2024 22:38 #420988

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whywatch wrote on 08 Sep 2024 12:14:
Good morning. I was once a bochur suffering with this issue (now I'm a married man suffering with it). I truly believed I was the only one doing this. Which other person in his right mind would do this, is what I thought. I was too ashamed to approach anyone.

Looking back, and seeing now how this problem is so much greater and wide spread, if I had my way, I would push for every single Yeshiva to have a Mashgiach that proactively deals with this. Someone who will build a trustful relationship with each bochur. Obviously he discuss all other trivial problems as well. (If not no one would come to him, because everyone would know why you are going to him) But at the same time his job should be to build trust with every single bochur, amd when the time is ripe, ask the bochur straight up if he suffers with this. And, when a bochur gives a quick "no" understand that he really wants to say yes but is ashamed. Work with him amd help him. This would save so many for years of pain and hopelessness!!!

I know someone doing exactly that in one yeshiva. Goal is to make it spreas
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Re: Bein hazmanim letter from Yeshivas 21 Jan 2025 21:42 #429753

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One of my kids has a great Rebbi this year BH. Among his maylos, he is on top of being in touch regularly, even if it is a 1-minute phone call (less than 30 minutes and he calls the whole class). 

These phone calls would take a little longer than that.

Perhaps it could be suggested that each Rebbi should call the parents of his class before Sukkos to discuss the reality (Aseres Yemei Teshuva might be an extra push for parents to hear if some things in their home need to change to protect their children). They can also prep the boys before going home and check in with them after bein hazemanim. 

Some of these conversations need to happen years before they go to yeshiva. Devices and other influences are affecting kids much earlier than that.

Just an idea, and I wanted to bump this thread before . . . 
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Re: Bein hazmanim letter from Yeshivas 22 Jan 2025 00:23 #429776

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BenHashemBH wrote on 21 Jan 2025 21:42:
One of my kids has a great Rebbi this year BH. Among his maylos, he is on top of being in touch regularly, even if it is a 1-minute phone call (less than 30 minutes and he calls the whole class). 

These phone calls would take a little longer than that.

Perhaps it could be suggested that each Rebbi should call the parents of his class before Sukkos to discuss the reality (Aseres Yemei Teshuva might be an extra push for parents to hear if some things in their home need to change to protect their children). They can also prep the boys before going home and check in with them after bein hazemanim. 

Some of these conversations need to happen years before they go to yeshiva. Devices and other influences are affecting kids much earlier than that.

Just an idea, and I wanted to bump this thread before . . . 
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I'm very open to ideas of raising awareness in the proper way. 
I'm just curious why you think this will work?
(I hope I'm not coming across as too harsh, it isn't my intention.)
What makes you think that: a) Rebbeim are aware of the issues and ready to deal with them? b) Parents are aware and ready?
Explaining to anyone who isn't aware of the issue the severity of it, how many people struggle, etc is much longer than a minute or two conversation, I think.
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Re: Bein hazmanim letter from Yeshivas 22 Jan 2025 02:40 #429786

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proudyungerman wrote on 22 Jan 2025 00:23:

BenHashemBH wrote on 21 Jan 2025 21:42:
One of my kids has a great Rebbi this year BH. Among his maylos, he is on top of being in touch regularly, even if it is a 1-minute phone call (less than 30 minutes and he calls the whole class). 

These phone calls would take a little longer than that.

Perhaps it could be suggested that each Rebbi should call the parents of his class before Sukkos to discuss the reality (Aseres Yemei Teshuva might be an extra push for parents to hear if some things in their home need to change to protect their children). They can also prep the boys before going home and check in with them after bein hazemanim. 

Some of these conversations need to happen years before they go to yeshiva. Devices and other influences are affecting kids much earlier than that.

Just an idea, and I wanted to bump this thread before . . . 
:pinch: Warning: Spoiler!

I'm very open to ideas of raising awareness in the proper way. 
I'm just curious why you think this will work?
(I hope I'm not coming across as too harsh, it isn't my intention.)
What makes you think that: a) Rebbeim are aware of the issues and ready to deal with them? b) Parents are aware and ready?
Explaining to anyone who isn't aware of the issue the severity of it, how many people struggle, etc is much longer than a minute or two conversation, I think.
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Shalom Brother PY.

I appreciate you sharing your thoughts.

You might be right and this wouldn't be realistic. It would require a structured system where the Rabbeim are educated by an appropriate Rosh Hamosad who would oversee it. 

I can try to paint an example tomorrow when I have some more time (and could still be that it's not practical)

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The yetzarim a person has the most trouble dealing with are his most powerful God-given tools for developing his potential and achieving shleimus.
It doesn't matter how big the number is, only that today it is going up by one.

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