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Re: Group 196 22 Dec 2016 19:24 #300896

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Re: Group 196 22 Dec 2016 20:47 #300903

I have not posted in a few days, but have been reading everyone else's posts. Thank you to all for keeping this thread alive. 

To make a long story short, I have had a very very slippy week. B'h I have not fallen, but I have been very close too many times. The only thing that really saved me is the fact that I could not bear resetting the 90 chart back to zero. So here I am.

Re: Group 196 23 Dec 2016 01:02 #300923

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Baruch_Hashem wrote on 22 Dec 2016 20:47:
I have not posted in a few days, but have been reading everyone else's posts. Thank you to all for keeping this thread alive. 

To make a long story short, I have had a very very slippy week. B'h I have not fallen, but I have been very close too many times. The only thing that really saved me is the fact that I could not bear resetting the 90 chart back to zero. So here I am.

Welcome back. It's great to have you back and to know that you're still strong.
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Re: Group 196 23 Dec 2016 03:35 #300936

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Yosef,
I gave you a Karma as promised

 ɐup ᴉu ʇɥǝ dɹoɔǝss ʍɐʇɔɥ ɯʎsǝlɟ sᴉuʞᴉuƃ ʇo ʇɥǝ qoʇʇoɯ oɟ ʇɥǝ dɐɔʞ
Last Edit: 23 Dec 2016 04:11 by quiet.

Re: Group 196 23 Dec 2016 03:56 #300937

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quiet wrote on 23 Dec 2016 03:35:
Yosef,
I gave you a Karma as promised

 ɐup ᴉu ʇɥǝ dɹoɔǝss ʍɐʇɔɥ ɯʎ sǝlɟ sᴉuʞᴉuƃ ʇo ʇɥǝ qoʇʇoɯ oɟ ʇɥǝ dɐɔʞ

Teach us oh wise sage how the heck do you post upside down. And am I the only one who has this annoying thing that the first letter of every post starts off doubled? Someone please commiserate with me
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Re: Group 196 23 Dec 2016 04:04 #300939

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¿sʇǝɹɔǝs ʎɯ llɐ ʇuɐʍ no

ɥʇʇd://ʍʍʍ˙ndsᴉpǝpoʍuʇǝxʇ˙ɔoɯ/



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Last Edit: 23 Dec 2016 04:10 by quiet.

Re: Group 196 23 Dec 2016 04:32 #300943

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quiet wrote on 23 Dec 2016 04:04:

¿sʇǝɹɔǝs ʎɯ llɐ ʇuɐʍ no

ɥʇʇd://ʍʍʍ˙ndsᴉpǝpoʍuʇǝxʇ˙ɔoɯ/



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So I put in the text that you put in the box and i get directed to 2 sites the first is one that webchaver says is highly questionable and the second is a chassidishe forum completely in yiddish. You crack me up. I'll give you a karma when I get a chance (I can't now cuz it's not 6 hours since i gave one to I dont remember who). 
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Re: Group 196 23 Dec 2016 04:40 #300944

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Well, if you are giving me a karma, I will tell you what do did wrong:

You pasted a replica of my text and I also found that Yiddish forum. That is hilarious! Like an IT forum being dictated by a little kid with suspenders (the only one in the shtetl who knows what a computer is AND how to say it in English) to help people with their computer issues. Well, my yiddish is so good I can tell the words of the title on the tab is 'computer tips and tricks'. AND the name of the poster on top is hypocrite. Is he calling himself a hypocrite because he owns a computer?

OMG, I have to stop reading. This forum is 90% kids and one kid made/found some upside down site and suspenders said I ɹǝɐllʎ po uoʇ ʞuoʍ ʍɥʎ ʎonɹs ᴉs qǝʇʇǝɹ ʇɥɐu ɥʇʇd://ʍʍʍ˙ndsᴉpǝpoʍuʇǝxʇ˙ɔoɯ/. So suspenders also likes my site. Then, someone asks is Incognito really private? Well, until now, having a Yiddish forum was really private.

I envy holy people who do not have to deal with the computer, but I hope these people are not rebelling against their customs. Maybe I can find their Rav to give us all a group lecture together

Now for the hint:
Do not paste the text because the text is not in the correct form. First decipher, then type.

I thought I saw someone (suspenders' sister?) with a finger to her mouth warning and reminding people not to share any of these secrets. Not sure where she went, but I would will IYH respect her wishes and advise everyone the same (however, this does not apply to reporting the forum to their rav)
Last Edit: 23 Dec 2016 05:00 by quiet.

Re: Group 196 23 Dec 2016 04:40 #300945

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quiet wrote:
Yosef,
I gave you a Karma as promised

 ɐup ᴉu ʇɥǝ dɹoɔǝss ʍɐʇɔɥ ɯʎsǝlɟ sᴉuʞᴉuƃ ʇo ʇɥǝ qoʇʇoɯ oɟ ʇɥǝ dɐɔʞ

If you can write upside umop so if you give someone minus karma it becomes snןd??
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Re: Group 196 23 Dec 2016 05:05 #300952

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Woops, I went past midnight. Slip. Good night GYE. If I do not fall tomorrow IYH, I will have my grand 9 day post where my fall and slip will be updated after Shabbos IYH

Re: Group 196 23 Dec 2016 12:09 #300966

Again, dinner wasn't ready, the table wasn't clean,
nobody was there and waiting for me, when I came home.
Nobody gets it that we are operating on a better, upgraded system
of reality now, with the family eating together and spending real 
quality time together for the first 45 minutes to an hour
after I come home every night. They have all gotten so used to 
the broken, bad system of behavior with everyone doing their own thing, 
that they are "caught off guard" when I ask where everyone is.

It takes over a 1/2 hour to get everyone and the table and dinner together,
and I feel a strong urge, with the force of a really bad habit, rise up inside of me.
I just wanted to escape and put on the computer!!!
The computer, that was always there for me, and soothed me, and 
kept me calm and entertained...plugged into the matrix, filling my head with
tyvahs and garbage, wasting my life, and hurting my real connections to 
HaShem and to my family...but always there for me.
But now it wasn't available!
And my son wasn't even home to put in his 1/2 a password, so that I could change it!
Wow...
The desire and frustration was real. I told everyone that if I am no longer going to have
the computer to escape to, then I want/need to have dinner and everybody ready
to spend family time together...on time, when I come home
(which is a known time within 5 minutes or so).

So, we were running very late. I was frustrated, but finally ready to start learning.
First, my son says it's too late to start learning. I got so frustrated, I yelled at him
(not proud of that reaction). Then, we finally started, and within the very first Mishna, 
we kept getting interrupted. My wife just wanted to ask him something, and then another thing,
they are talking in whispers using hand gestures back and forth,
as I read out loud the Mishna, and I got so frustrated, that I left the table.
NO learning, no shalom bayis, but no computer, and no late-night either.
I slept well, until I heard an animal on our roof at 5:00 in the morning.

I will make up with everyone today, so that I/we go into Shabbos with shalom.
I think I'm only 2 full days into Cold Turkey...I sure hope it gets easier,
because last night sucked!
Last Edit: 23 Dec 2016 12:29 by Yosef Tikun HaYesod.

Re: Group 196 23 Dec 2016 12:33 #300968

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Re: Group 196 23 Dec 2016 12:53 #300971

It's dead, cooked, cooled, left over, and now very, very COLD.
But I think it may still be my best option.
At least it's kosher!
Suggestions welcome.

Re: Group 196 23 Dec 2016 14:37 #300984

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My apologies. I wanna break a habit. I want a family dinner. I wanna learn with my son. I don't want a vacuum. I don't wanna wait. Nobody got the memo that there is change going on here. It's all about me. That attitude is the one that needs to change. And my friend, I am not picking on you. This was my life. I had my escape. I had my wants and desires. My wife wasn't following my fantasies of life. I was/am egotistical and a self righteous pig. The habit I needed to break was not theI damn movies, but the damn self. That was what was broken.  It took weeks and months and years to change the feelingsI and the hurt of the past. It is still a work in progress. Please think about this a little.....especially before responding. Please, I beg of you. Take it to heart. Yes, I may be way off and you are the most selfless person, husband, father in the world, but your posts (and perhaps it is your writing style) tell a different story. May you be blessed with joy, serenity, simchos, nachas and all the other good things.
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Re: Group 196 23 Dec 2016 15:09 #300991

Yosef Tikun HaYesod wrote on 23 Dec 2016 12:09:
Again, dinner wasn't ready, the table wasn't clean,
nobody was there and waiting for me, when I came home.
Nobody gets it that we are operating on a better, upgraded system
of reality now, with the family eating together and spending real 
quality time together for the first 45 minutes to an hour
after I come home every night. They have all gotten so used to 
the broken, bad system of behavior with everyone doing their own thing, 
that they are "caught off guard" when I ask where everyone is.
. . .
So, we were running very late. I was frustrated, but finally ready to start learning.
First, my son says it's too late to start learning. I got so frustrated, I yelled at him
(not proud of that reaction). Then, we finally started, and within the very first Mishna, 
we kept getting interrupted. My wife just wanted to ask him something, and then another thing,
they are talking in whispers using hand gestures back and forth,
as I read out loud the Mishna, and I got so frustrated, that I left the table.
NO learning, no shalom bayis, but no computer, and no late-night either.
I slept well, until I heard an animal on our roof at 5:00 in the morning.

I will make up with everyone today, so that I/we go into Shabbos with shalom.
I think I'm only 2 full days into Cold Turkey...I sure hope it gets easier,
because last night sucked!

Good job on your new "upgraded system." It is impressive that you more or less upgraded the system over night. I don't think that it is fair, however, to expect everyone else in the family to flip the switch the same exact second that you do. It has been months (years?) since you made a special focus to family time and supper, you cannot expect that the minute you decide that you want it again, they will all be there waiting for you. You need to earn their trust again, they may need to see that you really are committed to this upgrade, before they get their hopes to high up and jump on board. Keep up the good work, and keep a positive attitude, creating a positive atmosphere in the home. When your family sees that you are really committed to this "upgrade" and desire quality family interaction, they will slowly come on board. Be patient and positive.

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