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Re: I need help 27 Feb 2013 22:15 #202817

reallygettingthere
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gyegye2 wrote:

Eli,
same as i did for the last.... about 45 days that i am clean
i can only try

try to...

not get into slippy situations in the first place?
count to ten and breathe calmly when the yetzer hora strikes?

For me it helped a lot to identify where the problems start and try to specify what i was able to do to either preemptively avoid that situation or get out of it quickly

Don't be scared say what you are going to do

I'm sure there is something that works for you

Eli

Roy in the SA White Book noted that we frequently prayed and it did not work...because the best we could muster was begging G-d to "Please take it away, so I will not have to give it up!

No amount of sobriety can cure the insanity -ChaimCharlie

The emmes hurts but fake chizzuk will hurt more -Bards

Remember, best block, no be there - Mr. Miyagi

Re: I need help 27 Feb 2013 22:36 #202819

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sure i understand! i had the same problem! every time i had "fall" i got down to te flour & coudn't get up! i'm more in the hebrew section but i can tell you what i wrote there: אל תהפוך נפילה למפולת: don't make a "nfila" - a fall to Mapolet" - collapse!

love you enyway & davening for you! המתפלל על חבירו והוא צריך לאותו דבר (sorry for my broken english)

צדיק (sorry, חולה)

I need to remember that:
I'm no a bad person; I'm sick.
I'm not A Choteh. I'm A Chole.
It take time & effort to stay sober but it worth it.

Davening to hashem to keep me sober 1 day @ a time since יום ג שבוע של יום-הכיפורים ו תשרי ה'תשע"ד
10 Sptember 2013

(and to keep this date)

Re: I need help 28 Feb 2013 23:18 #202870

gyegye2 Current streak: 12 days OFFLINE Expert Boarder Posts: 124 Karma: 0	extending taphsic method to next week thursday
	Father, you are giving the chalenges - only if you fight it for us we can overcome it If it is good it is you! And if looks not good it is also you! If it is you it is Good! And if it is good it is again you! You You You!

Re: I need help 28 Feb 2013 23:21 #202871

gyegye2 Current streak: 12 days OFFLINE Expert Boarder Posts: 124 Karma: 0	moish about at day 50
	Father, you are giving the chalenges - only if you fight it for us we can overcome it If it is good it is you! And if looks not good it is also you! If it is you it is Good! And if it is good it is again you! You You You!

Re: I need help 28 Feb 2013 23:23 #202872

gyegye2 Current streak: 12 days OFFLINE Expert Boarder Posts: 124 Karma: 0	eli i am trying not to get into slippy situations in the first place and when the desire come to change the chanel
	Father, you are giving the chalenges - only if you fight it for us we can overcome it If it is good it is you! And if looks not good it is also you! If it is you it is Good! And if it is good it is again you! You You You!

Re: I need help 01 Mar 2013 04:19 #202890

Dov OFFLINE Administrator Posts: 1960 Karma: 384	'click'!
	"Off the 18-wheeler and fine on this tricycle!", "I do not particularly care exactly which "lav" suicide is. I'm not interested in it for other reasons...and you are probably the same."

Re: I need help 03 Mar 2013 07:56 #202946

reallygettingthere Current streak: 72 days OFFLINE Platinum Boarder Posts: 759 Karma: 27	Dov wrote: 'click'! Love it!
	Roy in the SA White Book noted that we frequently prayed and it did not work...because the best we could muster was begging G-d to "Please take it away, so I will not have to give it up! No amount of sobriety can cure the insanity -ChaimCharlie The emmes hurts but fake chizzuk will hurt more -Bards Remember, best block, no be there - Mr. Miyagi

Re: I need help 03 Mar 2013 20:04 #202954

Dov OFFLINE Administrator Posts: 1960 Karma: 384
	"Off the 18-wheeler and fine on this tricycle!", "I do not particularly care exactly which "lav" suicide is. I'm not interested in it for other reasons...and you are probably the same."

Re: I need help 04 Mar 2013 23:05 #202998

gyegye2 Current streak: 12 days OFFLINE Expert Boarder Posts: 124 Karma: 0	i am thinking about making a "plan B" if i am going to fall what i will do after the fall... i hope i should not have to use it
	Father, you are giving the chalenges - only if you fight it for us we can overcome it If it is good it is you! And if looks not good it is also you! If it is you it is Good! And if it is good it is again you! You You You!

Re: I need help 04 Mar 2013 23:21 #203000

skeptical OFFLINE Moderator Posts: 1118 Karma: 78	Personally, I don't think it's smart to make plans for when you fall. Focus on life and the positive things in life that come about through staying clean - Not on a plan for something that you are trying not to make an eventuality.
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Re: I need help 05 Mar 2013 02:07 #203025

gyegye2 Current streak: 12 days OFFLINE Expert Boarder Posts: 124 Karma: 0	had a fall after 46 days
	Father, you are giving the chalenges - only if you fight it for us we can overcome it If it is good it is you! And if looks not good it is also you! If it is you it is Good! And if it is good it is again you! You You You!

Re: I need help 05 Mar 2013 02:47 #203029

skeptical OFFLINE Moderator Posts: 1118 Karma: 78	I'm sorry to hear that. Don't dwell on it except to learn from it. What was your thinking process, how can you avoid that from happening again? Brush off the dust and get back on your feet. You CAN do it!
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Re: I need help 05 Mar 2013 23:09 #203060

gyegye2 Current streak: 12 days OFFLINE Expert Boarder Posts: 124 Karma: 0	thanks skepticle for your chizuk
	Father, you are giving the chalenges - only if you fight it for us we can overcome it If it is good it is you! And if looks not good it is also you! If it is you it is Good! And if it is good it is again you! You You You!

Re: I need help 05 Mar 2013 23:16 #203061

gyegye2
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my fall worked as followes

i had extremely big desire to fantasies something
1st i listened to a 20 min shiur as i said i will do in my thaphsic method
then i had a live chat with dov on the site
then i just fell
not thru the internet since i didn't want to pay for it as in my thaphsic method

i did my "knasos" that i have to do after falling if i did the distraction 1st
i went on a 30 min brisk walk
and i took a freezing shower.... oiy was this painfull

in fact my last strike was 30 days
now i went to 46 days

so i am still getting better, much better... for about 14 month ago i was falling about 4 times a week.

getting their

Father, you are giving the chalenges - only if you fight it for us we can overcome it
If it is good it is you!
And if looks not good it is also you!
If it is you it is Good!
And if it is good it is again you!
You You You!

Re: I need help 06 Mar 2013 00:08 #203066

reallygettingthere Current streak: 72 days OFFLINE Platinum Boarder Posts: 759 Karma: 27	46 day of nitzchiyus. It's yours to keep, forever. Now go get some more, one day at a time Eli
	Roy in the SA White Book noted that we frequently prayed and it did not work...because the best we could muster was begging G-d to "Please take it away, so I will not have to give it up! No amount of sobriety can cure the insanity -ChaimCharlie The emmes hurts but fake chizzuk will hurt more -Bards Remember, best block, no be there - Mr. Miyagi