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Re: Hi. My first post. 10 Jul 2025 23:00 #438728

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proudyungerman wrote on 10 Jul 2025 18:30:

yosefthetzadik wrote on 10 Jul 2025 00:14:
21 days. Was a good run. Really didn't wanna post. Feel so stupid after 21 days. I'm only posting that it should be a deterrent for next time.

I think I went wrong with taking the whole thing too hard. I completed 40 and 38 in the past, both were a lot easier, even though I was a lot less careful. I guess lesson learned.

Sorry for the fall...
Can you explain what you mean in the bolded paragraph? I am a little confused by it... 

I was trying to be "too" carful. I was trying too hard to avoid any bad thoughts or urges or triggers. I was to strict with myself. The pressure slowly started building up around 16 days in when i started having very strong headaches, until Day 21 when my mind was ballistic the whole day until it burst. I learned my lesson that I have to take the whole struggle more easy and relaxed. 
If procrastination were a sport, i'd be the undisputed international champion!

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140 days+ 10 Jul 2025 22:48 #438727

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BH, as I'm writing this post i literally have tears in my eyes, been struggling forever... tried stopping so many times but just kept falling again and again... tried Therapy twice... didn't have the effect to get you to break clean... so have no words to thank this amazing GYE org. (Family) they can pull off what therapists can't so only HASHEM can repay them, Hashem should help you should continue saving lives and spread Kedusha all over the world.

I wanna throw out there about this amazing book מה טובו אוהליך יעקבit helps me and lots of others so defiantly worth looking into it. below is a link to amazon.

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Great free resources:
My favorite book for breaking free: The Battle of the Generation https://guardyoureyes.com/ebooks/item/the-battle-of-the-generation. Change your attitude and change your life!
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just a thought that in that times a lot of ppl got married by by age 15 so his shviger could've gotten married at age 15 and he married her daughter when she was 15 which makes he's shviger a pretty young 30 yr old women (not taking away the part of being attracted to a shviger, but the age makes more sense)
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Re: Dove's journey 10 Jul 2025 22:21 #438725

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I am embarrassed to tell you that I had a fall yesterday.
Due to my lack of self-esteem, and because I had some free time and didn't know what to do, and because Ima left her cell phone with me when she left, and I knew her password and was alone, that's why I made the mistake.

Day 1:

But this time, I forced Ima to change her password to one that I don't know and I try hard not to have any more free time. This is how I return back.

There is nothing apart from Him

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Re: I miss me... 10 Jul 2025 22:01 #438724

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Come with us, little Neshomele,
Together now, let's all hold hands,
And we’ll fly away, all of us together,
With ambitious goals and plans.

But anonymous Chaver, no, part of me doesn’t want to go,
There is so much pain and hardship, and the journey is so slow,
Let me stay here down in hell, where it’s dark and I’ll be numb,
Please don’t make me go away, can’t you see I’m so afraid.

Come with us, little Neshomele,
It’s time you faced your ability,
As you grow day by day now, you will show yourself,
There is so much you can be.

(Y'all are invited to continue.)

Welcome!

Re: Help! 10 Jul 2025 21:34 #438722

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Thank you, I've briefly started the book, and I have a bit of a connection with HHM Shlita, but I'm on uk time so it's hard to gain more from him. I'm interested in trying to have someone to call in "the moment" but not sure how to organize it. I think it's also a matter of working myself out in order to prioritize the right strategy otherwise it feels like "tofasto merubo, lo tofasto". Do you agree?
Anyway, I'm on my way to day 1 bs"d.
Bessuros tovos to everyone.
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Re: Help! 10 Jul 2025 21:03 #438718

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Ouch!
Here's a hug...

Have you considered connecting to a mentor? Joining the vaad?
Have you read the boo recommended above? (TBOTG)

Here's a list of some mentors and a link to the vaad project:
Vaad Program* (click here for an explanation of what the vaad is)

HHM - Hashem Help Me - is the mentor-in-chief around here. He's reachable at michelgelner@gmail.com.
Some of the other great guys here are Eerie - 1gimpelovitz@gmail.com, Muttel - muttel15@gmail.com,   Reb Akiva - mevakesh247@gmail.com iwantlife - iwantlifegye@proton.me minhamayim - minhamayim1@gmail.com amevakesh - amevakesh23@gmail.com iwannalivereal - iwannalivereal@gmail.com
Feel free to reach out and say hi!
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In Monday's Daf Yomi the Gemara mentioned the איסור of ונשמרת מכל דבר רע which we learn from that passuk that we're not allowed to look at women in order to enjoy. I was wondering to myself what's the differnece between this איסור and what we learn from  לא תתורו אחרי לבבכם which is mention in ברכות יב:. So I looked into it and found that the סמ"ק (מצווה ל') and also the שערי תשובה (שער ג' אות מ') both say that the איסור of לא תתורו is only if one is planning about sinning with that woman that he is looking at, similiar to the איסור of לא תתורו of עבודה זרה where the sin is only if one us planning on worshupping idols. This idea I also so very clearly in the ספר חסידים and the אגרות משה (אבן העזר א ס"ט) also explains the difference between these two sins in that way. לא תתורו is only when one is planning on sinning with a woman whereas ונשמרת מכל דבר רע is only by looking at a woman in order to enjoy even if not planning on sinning with that woman. This sin is because it will cause you become טמא via קרי.

The thing is that I recalled the משנה ברורה (סימן ע"ה ס"ק ז') quoting the passuk of לא תתורו regarding looking at the finger of a woman in order to enjoy (also the חכמת אדם brought that passuk). Where that statement in the gemarah was mentioned about the passuk of ונשמרת מכל דבר רע.
Anyway, it sounds like there's a מחלוקת on how to interpert the איסור learnt from ולא תתורו. According to the sources I quoted above it sounds like one is not considered עובר on לא תתורו as long as he isn't planning on sinning with the woman (whereas he is עובר on ונשמרת מכל דבר רע). But according to the משנה ברורה you're also עובר on לא תתורו by only looking. Does anyone know any sources from the ראשונים where it's stated more clearly the opinion that the משנה ברורה brings?

Also I was thinking according to this opinion, what is the difference between the two different איסורים?
One possibility that I thought of is that לא תתורו is the איסור regarding the act itself, whereas ונשמרת מכל דבר רע is the איסור regarding the outcome.
Or maybe it's possible that they are both the same איסור from to differnet passukim?
Would love to hear if anyone has any more clear sources on this.
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Re: I miss me... 10 Jul 2025 20:32 #438716

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Welcome to the most amazing family, Little Neshamala!
As I'm sure you've learned from the responses of the oilam, we are here for you, now and always. We care about you, we want to hear from you, and we will stand by you to see you succeed, beH!
Keep up the amazing work, keep sharing, and keep trucking!!!
Feel free to say hi. My email is 1gimpelovitz@gmail.com
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Re: Help! 10 Jul 2025 19:56 #438715

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I've fallen again, this time at work when I was alone. 
I'm struggling to understand myself. I've managed in this situation before. The setback chain hasn't enlightened me this time.
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Re: Hi. My first post. 10 Jul 2025 19:34 #438714

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Hi, be proud of how much you accomplished 

Keep on going 
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Wow 

Very inspiring, thanks for the post 
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rebakiva wrote on 10 Jul 2025 17:11:


Marriage in 2025:

23 year old chaim marries 21 year old Malky who knows how to cook and bake on her own, she knows how to care for a house laundry shopping and children etc. she doesn’t need any pampering anymore she has her friends and full social life set up already for the past 8 years she knows exactly what she does or doesn’t want, what she does or doesn’t like, what she does or doesn’t appreciate, she has her own phone since 7 years ago, and her friend from school {which there’s a very wide range of nowadays, from all types and backgrounds} whose father had an unfiltered smart phone and she learnt on her own what s*x is all about nicely educated Malky when she was just 8 years old exactly what it’s all about.

Although Chaim has learnt about the five love languages, it’s still too hard for him to figure out which one his dear wife relates to because she herself doesn’t really know, there is such easy access to anything and everything that nothing and everything talks to her, what Chaim should clean the dishes? The cleaning lady is here for that, he should buy her a diamond ring? Social media apps will prove that it’s a lab grown diamond even though he spent $7000 for it, etc.

And so Chaim comes home during shana rishonah and tells his wife “I love you” he buys her presents, he hugs and kisses her he tries to sit nexto her on the couch as often as he can, trying desperately to figure out how to break the ice between them…

But little does he know, Malky is sitting there and thinking to herself, I’m sooo excited with this diamond ring he bought me, but it’s just a nice present, it doesn’t define “love”, he has yet to prove to me that he really loves me, he’s just saying so and hugging and kissing me because he wants me to get undressed for him, he wants to use me, etc…

So the next night instead of sitting on the couch she just calls her friend and schmoozes with her for 2 hours and twenty six minutes… all while Chaim is sitting there with a big and encouraging smile on his face but anger bubbling deep inside him, finally she hangs up and makes a huge yawn as if to say sorry dear no s*x tonight I’m just waaayyyy tooooo tired, now Chaim feels rejected and let down…

Now this is not to say that this how it’ll stay forever, obviously a wise man would give her the space and time she needs to fully adjust to married life, the space and time it’ll take him to really figure out which one of the five love languages his wife really relates to and once he has it figured out and puts it into action, she’ll start really feeling “loved” not befriended for s*x, just “loved” then obviously there’ll be changes big changes coming from her side as well, she’ll suddenly care to try and figure out what love language her husband relates to, it’ll cease to be a friendship for s*x, instead it’ll become a real intimate couple life relationship.

But the point is that nowadays things are different very different, and true love takes time and in many cases a lot of time, we try, we fail, until we learn, then we see changes.

Inspired by talking with many people who feel / felt rejected by wifes actions...


Very important point about how modern marriages can sometimes present unique challenges and the need to give it time and effort.

Regarding your graphic, romanticized portrayal of ancient pre-arranged marriages to a minor and assuming there were no issues, whether emotional/sexual or due to lack of valid consent...it made me more than a tad uncomfortable, TBH. But, you are probably right, many things that we find immoral and unethical today were obviously different back than, and I do not wish to dilute your point, or go down that rabbit hole, so......AD KAN.
Last Edit: 10 Jul 2025 19:04 by youknowwho. Reason: Will there be a sequel to the chaim and malky saga?
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grant400 wrote on 09 Jul 2025 21:02:
Had a fall after 75 of the best days in a while. Put alot of work into it...will continue to build off of it iyh.

Starting again!!!!

So good to have you back!
Please stick around! We could use you in these parts...
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Re: Hi. My first post. 10 Jul 2025 18:30 #438710

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yosefthetzadik wrote on 10 Jul 2025 00:14:
21 days. Was a good run. Really didn't wanna post. Feel so stupid after 21 days. I'm only posting that it should be a deterrent for next time.

I think I went wrong with taking the whole thing too hard. I completed 40 and 38 in the past, both were a lot easier, even though I was a lot less careful. I guess lesson learned.

Sorry for the fall...
Can you explain what you mean in the bolded paragraph? I am a little confused by it... 
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