Take it easy, Yiddle. Everything will be fine. We'll make sure to consult with you before doing any major changes, ok? 

guardureyes wrote on 17 Jan 2010 17:39:


Ya I am sorry Guard for coming off too strong there. I dont know why I STILL feel I should have to control everything. If there's one thing I should learn from my addiction is that our needs to control everything in life is what truly brings us to our restlesness, irritability, and discontent.

I know everyone is having fun here, with the fiscal forcast and all, but I realy do think that GUARD will be a drivin gfrove in the next few years. You see, all it takes is one gevir to bankroll him,  and together with the creativity and inginuity of the members here, GYE will have it's pamflets in every yeshiva, and a handbook on every mussar shelf. True they will have to be re-written to adress all the different stages of addiciton, and all the different sorts,  but we can worry  about that later.

This is the nissayon of our dor, our dor is a VAAD LEZNUS!!!! and GUARD is leading the rebelion against the entire entertainment industry. Hey mybe somone can launch a class-action lawsuit against the entertainment industry, and make them fund this site as a cure.

Seriosly speaking now, can someone with a good filter, search for any from of gov. funding? There is always plenty of free money available for charitable causes, and probably for this also. We are a corporation, and soon will BH be a non-profit one.

Thanks, SA.

As soon as we are non-profit, I will look into applying for a government grant in the U.S. be"h... I have discussed this in the past with Phillip Rosenthal...

guardureyes wrote on 16 Jan 2010 18:28:


OK.
BTW, now that we/you have official haskomos to show people,  it should be easier be"H. No?  I hope so.

guardureyes wrote on 17 Jan 2010 17:39:


Guard, you have such a warm sense of humor. : )  It's so heartwarming. I'm serious.

Yiddle, I feel sorry for the non-addicts, they'll miss out on so much...

We should budget for an active committe to turn peolpe into addicts just so they can join our group and get help. Maybe couple it with the fundraising dept by targeting children of millionaires. (Of course Tatty will fund his own son's therapy. Otherwise the whole Olam might hear how much his kid resents him.)

Reb G., you've got my offer to help sitting in your in tray, probably burried under all those unread circulars.

There SHOULD be a web site for non addicts.

Well, I've sent out over 330 Shmiras Ainayim Chizuk e-mails, and not one of them mentions "Addiction"... The material in that can be used for starters 

I have alot of experience with these things. Haskomos are great....but not tooooo many people really care about them anymore. Not that we would throw them out c"v. They do legitimize. BUT as far as getting big $$$$,  we need to get a list of many of the large frum g'virim, and then......we need to watch them closely. See which one's look like they haven't slept in a few days. Which one's are really nervous, and on edge. (just get a look at their eyes, and if we can see that they are red, blood shot, and bulging... :o even a little...we found a good candidate.  These are the one's that we need to find, and make sure we email them, (we can do undercover (my specialty) get their private email addresses, send to their office, and where, and what ever, and through this we we lead them to GYE.  As time goes on, we advt how  money can't buy everything etc. etc, and then we explain BUT, if one usese their $ to support GYE, and thereby help others rectify this terrible chet, then of course the rich person WILL be able to buy his way to heaven....so to speak.

me wrote on 04 Feb 2010 16:12:


I'm a bit Nogeiah b'Davar , but the Rosh Yeshiva's letter is not your ordinary, run of the mill, Haskama.  It's nothing short of groundbreaking.  Here's why: It is probably the first letter by someone of the Rosh Yeshiva's stature to fully acknowledge the scope of the problem (even kollel members and Rabbis!) and the extent of the problem (widespread, lives ruined, marriages wrecked), and to further acknowledge that we're dealing with an addiction/illness, not with people who are evil and simply need to exercise better self control.  Furthermore, the letter offers a real solution, other than completely banning the Internet, something that would do little (if anything) to help an addict.  I'm certain that the letter is a first in Klal Yisrael.  Anyone who says otherwise is just looking for an excuse not to give serious support to GYE!  

As I said Kedusha, this Haskama is great........I was just referring not to the writer of the haskama, but rather how much people today pay attention to them. But, for sure.....to get more, and more as possible.

I personally managed to get for myself some VERY large world reknown haskamos for a different pupose. I am only commenting on how much the people pay attention to them. Just my own experiences.

It depends what it's for... A Haskama to help a person marry off his children - even from the gadol hador, get's little attention. A Haskama that addresses a subject everyone's been brushing under the rug forever, I think will get some MAJOR attention! 

me wrote on 04 Feb 2010 17:16:


I'm with Guard.  This particular Haskama is hard to ignore, based on who wrote it, the nature of the subject matter, and the strong language used.

One hundred percent!  The Gadol who gives the Haskoma on the matzav in Kalal Yisroel is the most important thing because HE PERSONALLY gives his own personal account on how many Yidden are coming to him with tradgic stories. THis is the most important point....."rather than having people brush the subject under the rug".

AS far a GYE which is an oasis for these people, and their families, it's kind of like asking for a Haskama for an irgun that gives out tzdakah to poor families for Shabbos. Do they really need an haskama to give out free chessed? I do agree that the Haskama such a R. Twerski being an expert with addictions is the most important concerning this aspect, i.e. that the direction of GYE is fit for this type of addiction.

I guess in the end.... I agree with everything! :D