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Re: Chooseurnames 90 day trip 06 May 2025 18:15 #435533

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chosemyshem wrote on 04 May 2025 21:01:
Checking in.

Still clean. Definitely a little slipping at the end of the week last week, but feeling grateful that the area of slippage is in shemiras einayim in the streets and not hardcore porn at the office. Still something that needs work and a lot of care that it doesn't become that first sip that drags me off the cliff. One tough thing is that my new job is in a much more urban and crowded area, and the streets are just alot more intense than where my previous job was. And keeping your head down while driving is just not so shayech. . .

Actually a funny story about that. I was thinking over shabbos about what works in the street and what doesn't. One thing I used to try was to look out for interesting stuff on the sidewalk - Rabbi Miller has a shtickel about looking for coins or something. And I so on shabbos I decided that that doesn't work since there's never anything interesting on the sidewalk and I should focus on other tools. But Rabboisei! Pull out your guitar and hum along! Hayad Hashem Tiktzor! There I was walking along this afternoon, and I happened to glance down. And what did I see? A hundred dollar bill on the ground!

Never happened to me before. Absolutely blew my mind.

Now, this would be a better story if it motivated me to keep my eyes down. Which it hasn't so far. We'll see. I've been getting somewhere with the "women on the street are not your eye candy" so hopefully I'll be able to keep on working with that. But it's tough.

The GYE calendar has me at 32 days but no idea if that's accurate or not. I have not been checking in at all, trying to actively avoid it, but needed a little chizzuk so checked in for the boost from the "streak." Either way, glad to be clean today.

So today's Vayimaen . . . in case you were looking for additional hashgacha

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Re: Chooseurnames 90 day trip 07 May 2025 12:44 #435563

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simchastorah wrote on 05 May 2025 19:08:
I'm so glad you found it! Lemme pm you my address so you can return it, I've been looking everywhere

Definitely pm your email address.

Returning the money we can discuss. After taxes, fees, shipping and handling it may be cheaper for you to just forget about it . . .

Re: Chooseurnames 90 day trip 11 May 2025 21:11 #435709

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Checking in.

More of the same. Some ups and downs, but all within a pretty good range. Definitely been more taking a second glance then is totally healthy for me. But doing good all the same.

Friday afternoon I randomly and completely decided I was gonna go fall. B"h came to my senses before I got to it. Shabbos, I saw an enticing sight in the street and instinctively turned away before it finished registering (though mixed success on the urges to check and confirm exactly how enticing the sight was lol.)

Ups and downs but b"h doing pretty good. Working on maintaining my motivation and staying away from the first indulgence.

By the way, random grouch. My wife decided to use the money I found on a "date night." Ended up being quite an expensive bit of free money. Ain't no such thing as a free lunch.
Last Edit: 11 May 2025 21:13 by chosemyshem.

Re: Chooseurnames 90 day trip 14 May 2025 00:22 #435828

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Today, for no reason I can tell, was an absolute disaster of a day.

Not lust-wise. Life-wise.

Fighting with my wife over nothing, came super late to (my brand new) work, shouted at kids. The works.

I'm not sure what happened. What is very interesting is that 1) if I didn't have a little clean streak going there is no question at all I would've turned to porn. 2) While I'm (at least trying to be) very grateful I didn't do that, and I know it would have only made things worse, it does (as always) surprise me that leaving porn didn't turn my life into a sparkly rainbow of joy. 3) As a convo with the great hopeful P drove home, all those negative character traits that lead me down the path of porn are still there. And they ain't gonna go away by themselves.

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Re: Chooseurnames 90 day trip 14 May 2025 12:52 #435857

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Think I'm coming down with a bad cold. Not great, but nice to have an explanation why yesterday was so tough.

Re: Chooseurnames 90 day trip 14 May 2025 13:18 #435864

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chosemyshem wrote on 14 May 2025 00:22:
Today, for no reason I can tell, was an absolute disaster of a day.

Not lust-wise. Life-wise.

Fighting with my wife over nothing, came super late to (my brand new) work, shouted at kids. The works.

I'm not sure what happened. What is very interesting is that 1) if I didn't have a little clean streak going there is no question at all I would've turned to porn. 2) While I'm (at least trying to be) very grateful I didn't do that, and I know it would have only made things worse, it does (as always) surprise me that leaving porn didn't turn my life into a sparkly rainbow of joy. 3) As a convo with the great hopeful P drove home, all those negative character traits that lead me down the path of porn are still there. And they ain't gonna go away by themselves.

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I hear you, brother. I have a slightly different take. Life going on the way you describe is pretty good.
You see - negative character traits take a lifetime of work to change. Or should i rather say, to sublimate, enhance, and transcend. The Nesivos Shalom speaks many times about how, in truth, the "good days" aint that great, and the "bad days" are really good days [I think it was the Vorke Rebbe who said that on his deathbed]. I think it means that the days when our negative traits are flaring up, and we struggle and yet persevere to an extent - well - THAT'S GROWTH. There's nothing more valuable than that. "All in all its yet another rung up the ladder" [my version of the Pink Floyd Yesoid].  You had a sucky day. You didn't fall. You are pushing forwards. You are seeing what you can learn from it. It's days like this for which we are born. Scratching a bit further at what we have to work on, getting a little better each day. Only this and nothing more. Hang on friend, and feel better! You're one of the good ones. איש החפץ בחיים
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Re: Chooseurnames 90 day trip 14 May 2025 22:00 #435896

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No it really doesn't lead to a rainbow of joy. I'm depressed as I ever was. Clean about 25-30 days.

Re: Chooseurnames 90 day trip 14 May 2025 23:00 #435900

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mountainclimb wrote on 14 May 2025 22:00:
No it really doesn't lead to a rainbow of joy. I'm depressed as I ever was. Clean about 25-30 days.

I don’t like to talk about myself so much. 
But the following may be valuable for others to see. So here goes. 
I just realized that today, day 730 for me, is two years clean. 
BH. 
Life isn’t a bed of roses. In fact I have a number of major Nisyonos that have taken place and continue to take place, and I struggle with them internally as well as outwardly. 

However, the internal joy that I have inside from the sense of Tahara that I’ve developed from being clean has changed my life, and given me strength and clarity and a wellspring of Koach that I would not otherwise have. Because being clean is not just about stopping to feel sick about what was wrong. It’s about how so, so, much in my internal spiritual and emotional life is better from this place that I’m now in, BH. Everything looks different from here. I’ve written about it on the forums…

I don’t think life ever stops being filled with challenges. That’s why we are here. But the rewards of being clean - long term - are abundant. 

Hang on, friend. It comes with time, and it’s worth it. 

Here’s a warm hand, 
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Last Edit: 15 May 2025 02:58 by chaimoigen. Reason: Added some clarification

Re: Chooseurnames 90 day trip 14 May 2025 23:13 #435902

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chaimoigen wrote on 14 May 2025 23:00:

mountainclimb wrote on 14 May 2025 22:00:
No it really doesn't lead to a rainbow of joy. I'm depressed as I ever was. Clean about 25-30 days.

I don’t like to talk about myself so much. 
But the following may be valuable for others to see. So here goes. 
I just realized that today, day 730 for me, is two years clean. 
BH. 
Life isn’t a bed of roses. In fact I have a number of major Nisyonos that have taken place and continue to take place.  

However, the internal joy that I have inside from the sense of Tahara that I’ve developed from being clean has changed my life, and given me strength and clarity and a wellspring of Koach that I would not otherwise have. It’s not about stopping to feel sick about what was wrong. It’s about how so, so much in my internal spiritual and emotional life is better from this place. I’ve written about it on the forums…

I don’t think life ever stops being filled with challenges. That’s why we are here. But the rewards of being clean - long term - are abundant. 

Hang on, friend. It comes with time, and it’s worth it. 

Here’s a warm hand, 
Chaim Oigen

Wow I've yet to see such a post, pure gold, and amazing chizuk. I'm far from being fully clean, but recently I have tapped into this,  days that are relatively clean are priceless and just make everything spiritual, sweet, I can only imagine how being clean long term only compounds this clarity and sweetness.
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Re: Chooseurnames 90 day trip 16 May 2025 15:42 #435968

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chosemyshem wrote on 04 Mar 2025 16:32:
Well. There I was filter poking away. And found my way onto a certain forum site with all the pornographic content I could wish for. And started taking a look or two. But one of my search terms popped up the below burningly painful letter from a spouse who caught her partner looking at porn.

Read carefully . . .

To the PA (Ed: "porn addict") who loves his partner but has shattered her world,

If you are here, lurking in this [forum], searching for answers, maybe even for hope, I need you to read this carefully. Because this is what it feels like to be me, the person who trusted you, loved you, stood by you, only to be blindsided by deception over and over again.

Betrayal trauma is not just sadness. It is not just anger. It is a complete rewiring of my brain, a deep, physical shock to my system. It is waking up every morning with a pit in my stomach, a constant hum of anxiety in the background of my life. It is questioning everything, every moment, every word, every touch. It is looking back at our memories and wondering how many of them were real. It is realizing that the man I thought I knew, the man I felt so deeply connected to, was living a double life right in front of me.

I did not just lose trust in you. I lost trust in myself, in my own instincts, in my ability to feel safe and loved. Do you know what that does to a person? Do you even begin to understand the weight of that?

You say you love me. But love is not just words or grand gestures or booking trips. Love is protection. Love is honesty. Love is making choices that keep me safe, even when they are hard. And you did not do that. Not once. Not when we first met, not when we built a life together, not when I gave you chance after chance. Every time you chose secrecy, every time you minimized or withheld the truth, you made a choice that pushed me further away. And now, you are standing here, asking me to believe that this time is different. That this time you really mean it.

I want to believe you. God, I want to believe you so badly. But do you understand how hard that is when you have rewritten our entire history with your lies?

Your addiction, your secrecy, your inability to face the full weight of what you have done, it has changed me. I will never be the same woman I was before all of this. The carefree, trusting, deeply in-love version of me, you broke her. And maybe you did not mean to. Maybe you were too lost in your own shame, your own self-loathing, your own compulsions to truly see what you were doing. But intentions do not undo damage.

So if you are here, lurking, searching for proof that redemption is possible, let me tell you what I need. I need absolute honesty. Not half-truths. Not omissions. Not damage control when you are caught. I need to know that you can sit with your shame, face your failures, and still choose me over your own fear of discomfort. I need to know that you understand what you have done to me, not just that you feel guilty, but that you get how deeply this has wounded me. I need to see actions, not just hear words.

Because right now, I am holding the last frayed threads of my patience. And if you truly want to rebuild, to prove to me that you are more than the sum of your worst choices, you need to meet me at my pain. Not run from it, not hide behind excuses, not make this about your struggle alone.

If you love me, truly love me, prove it. Because this time, words will never be enough. The patience and empathy I have shown you so far would have been enough for a lifetime under normal circumstances. Carve that in your mind.



It was worth it for me to read your entire thread for this post. I am deeply grateful that you decided to share it. I've been trying to repair my relationship for several years to no avail. Reading this is extremely helpful for me. Honestly, there are points here that I never would have figured out on my own.
If anyone else comes across any material like this, kindly forward it my way. 

-Diamond 

Re: Chooseurnames 90 day trip 18 May 2025 03:05 #435987

chaimoigen wrote on 14 May 2025 13:18:

chosemyshem wrote on 14 May 2025 00:22:
Today, for no reason I can tell, was an absolute disaster of a day.

Not lust-wise. Life-wise.

Fighting with my wife over nothing, came super late to (my brand new) work, shouted at kids. The works.

I'm not sure what happened. What is very interesting is that 1) if I didn't have a little clean streak going there is no question at all I would've turned to porn. 2) While I'm (at least trying to be) very grateful I didn't do that, and I know it would have only made things worse, it does (as always) surprise me that leaving porn didn't turn my life into a sparkly rainbow of joy. 3) As a convo with the great hopeful P drove home, all those negative character traits that lead me down the path of porn are still there. And they ain't gonna go away by themselves.

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I hear you, brother. I have a slightly different take. Life going on the way you describe is pretty good.
You see - negative character traits take a lifetime of work to change. Or should i rather say, to sublimate, enhance, and transcend. The Nesivos Shalom speaks many times about how, in truth, the "good days" aint that great, and the "bad days" are really good days [I think it was the Vorke Rebbe who said that on his deathbed]. I think it means that the days when our negative traits are flaring up, and we struggle and yet persevere to an extent - well - THAT'S GROWTH. There's nothing more valuable than that. "All in all its yet another rung up the ladder" [my version of the Pink Floyd Yesoid].  You had a sucky day. You didn't fall. You are pushing forwards. You are seeing what you can learn from it. It's days like this for which we are born. Scratching a bit further at what we have to work on, getting a little better each day. Only this and nothing more. Hang on friend, and feel better! You're one of the good ones. איש החפץ בחיים

Reb chaim! I hope all is swell,
just to give a little clarity on my observation in the convo with the great and ever heilig choosurname.
Granted if you have a rough day and you don't act out that is growth, but... it is growth in not using lust to deal with your discomfort. If you are still turning to frustration and anger and especially when its in a way which can lead back to a life of porn (such as fighting with the rebbetzin which will deteriorate the relationship) there is definitely work that needs to be done and, as he pointed out so nicely, it won't happen by itself.
Yes a large part of the struggle is learning to live through life's ups and downs and not use porn to numb ourselves to the pain and discomfort of life. but another large area of recovery is to work on ourselves to not feel the overburdening frustration and anger which can need to be numbed, whether by venting it in a destructive tirade or by binging porn.
If life is going to be full of pain and discomfort it will be near impossible to stay clean long term, that is why it is crucial to address these issues and not just hope that you stay clean from porn for another day while turning to another drug, anger and lashing out.
I apologize that this isn't my usual post of sunshine and rainbows, I've been dealing with this struggle for a couple of years since I gained sobriety (even though I fell a few times I still view it as being sober from lust for almost 2 years since I wasn't really back in the cycle), and have come to recognize the importance of working on myself in order to live a happy and accomplished life. If you don't have this struggle, praise hashem.
Hatzlachah!
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Re: Chooseurnames 90 day trip 18 May 2025 04:10 #435990

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I agree with every one of your points. Unfortunately I am also dealing with pain and frustration on a regular basis, so I can relate. I am working daily on not being resentful, on trying to find serenity and Bitachon, and having to work on my middos, which continue to need a lot of work. 

That said, growth is a slow, multi stepped, ongoing process, and I think it’s good to acknowledge that. 

If theres a guy who used to turn to porn almost every time he felt discomfort and the urge to escape, and today he didn’t, even if he lashed out, it’s worthwhile, in my thinking, for him to stop and give thanks that he’s achieved that much growth, and to take strength and encouragement to keep working to get to the next level.

It’s not ok to lash out; anger and resentment are ugly. But making yourself into a full mentch, with the help of Hashem, is a long project. One day, one step at a time. 

Here’s a warm hand, from a fellow trudger-in-the-trenches

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Last Edit: 18 May 2025 15:05 by chaimoigen.

Re: Chooseurnames 90 day trip 18 May 2025 15:17 #435997

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And this is why we're blessed to have CO trudging with us

Re: Chooseurnames 90 day trip 18 May 2025 20:49 #436007

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Checking in.

Life goes on.

Glad to still be clean. Unglad to be stressed, but you can't have everything.

Tough to remember why/how to keep my eyes to myself on the streets, but the battle isn't lost.

So it goes. 
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