You guessed quite well, I filtered my devices cause Im the more "frum" of the family, while they don't even want to hear about filters. A webChaver cant be an option I think, they wouldn't like someone else to know everything they do... 
To me, the morst useful solution would be the knas but it never worked (I've already tried many times and never gave the amount to tzedaka).

Muttel wrote on 17 Jun 2024 13:23:

I dont think I can but your messages made me really hopful!
You know sometimes it just feels like you're the only one to have that kind of problems.

ShtettlMan wrote on 17 Jun 2024 13:52:

This is unfortunately one of the more successfull tactics that the yetzer hora uses. GYE has 30k + users who signed up . and thats only the people who were courageous enough. there are plent more out there 

I dont know how to thank everyone here because I've always felt lonely in that fight. It's the first time in my life (7 days clean) that I talk about it, I discussed about p&m with friends of mine and listened to their problems, but never dared talking about mine. 

ShtettlMan wrote on 17 Jun 2024 14:13:

Take your time and get comfortable. We're good people

Welcome to the family! 7 Days is HUGE! What I have done in the past is to ask them to change the password to the device because I end up wasting time. This way you don't admit you're looking at inappropriate things, you're coming from a different view-its just wasting time looking for good deals, checking the news, etc. Obviously a filter is better but at least this is a start. Hatzlacha! Keep us posted

happyid1 wrote on 17 Jun 2024 19:38:

This sounds doable. Thank you!

7 clean days is huge achi!!!!

JARES90 wrote on 18 Jun 2024 01:31:

bH, thank you, it really gave me a chizuk for the day!!
Today is 8th day and hope it will be clean bsd
Yesterday I had urges but did not fall (surely due to the messages I got thank you all!!)
I think Imma do like Ive seen on different threads and keep updates daily or weekly here.

Idk if it helps anyone here but it for sure helps me. Today is very a rough day in inyanei kedoucha, with many "slipped moment" (looking at inappropriate images I try to fix their accessability with the filter guy but he does not answer...).
I try my best not to watch p* and not to m*. bezH it will work!

Ended up with a fall : p&m
I dont know how to react, what can I do to improve and to start it all again. If anyone can Help me...
Should I go again for the 90 clean days ? Or start with a lower goal? If I take a lower goal, what happens after I hit it, I can't say to myself like "after x days you'll do it", it doesnt make sense 
And how do I restart the streak days?

ShtettlMan wrote on 18 Jun 2024 14:13:

You had good awareness and you'll make adjustments and keep working on it!

One day at a time. The idea of counting days and having a limited goal is to help motivate you in short-term successes. This does not mean that you are done after say 30 days - you keep building on that. But now is not the time to think that far ahead. The long-term change will be created when you stack up all your shorter-term goals. Like a fitness plan, you don't get up one day and start training for a 26-mile marathon.  You start with 1 mile, then 2, etc. Each time you hit your achievable goal you raise the bar. Control your breathing better, improve your nutrition, refine your stride, increase your endurance, and push farther. The progress is in the steps.

Keep the focus on today and not the what-ifs of the future. If I look too far ahead, I might frustratingly keep tripping over what I don't see right in front of me. One foot and then the other will get you to your destination. Hatzlacha!

Your goal for today should always be today. And if that goal seems high- your goal for now should be now.
 Right now I can get past whatever urge I have.

ONE DAY AT A TIME 
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You can do it

ShtettlMan wrote on 18 Jun 2024 14:13:

Yo great questions. Don't beat yourself up about the fall - consider it like a kid stumbling while learning how to walk. 

What are you currently doing besides white knuckling? I apologize if you've already addressed this. But are you doing the F2F program videos and exercises? I'd also suggest joining the daily battle of the generation read which just restarted the book.
Make a plan. A realistic plan, which you can stick and addresses your issues. A plan with fences in the right places - before the slippery slope starts sliding. And stick to it. 

I saw you wrote you have easy access to unfiltered devices. Filtering up to the greatest extent possible is a crucial beginning step of any plan. So, while you'll never be able to filter the entire world, making a real commitment to filtering your personal devices and not using those other devices is an important step to getting clean. (If you can get them filtered, all the better. But if you can't, then make a real commitment to not using them.)

One of the most powerful tools on GYE is the chevra. Talking to real people is really powerful. It took me a very long time to work up to doing that, and it was truly difficult to make those first calls. But when you're ready, picking up the phone and (anonymously) calling someone is a really helpful step. There's a holy jew on here called HHM. Call him.

Stick around. Learn. Never give up. 

BenHashemBH wrote on 18 Jun 2024 14:38:

The example is very clear!! Imma start a new sequence, with a goal counted in weeks wether than in months. It could be more doable.