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how I did it... 27 Dec 2018 11:37 #338059

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I just made it to 90 - first time ever. Previously I never got even close (I think 14 days was my max). 

It happened like this: I was pretty much as low a character as they come online. I had a bit of a following on the 'frum' sites and forums. I had a huge collection of private pics of frum girls that I had obtained in various not good ways (some tricking the girls, some figuring out private passwords) and was getting to be a big upskirt taker (I had a perfect technique and had a lot of stuff). Mostly sem girls and schoolgirls was my thing. Pretty sick.

It took a massive toll on my family life. I'd make up reasons to go to the store so I could get upskirt pics, or to go somewhere if it was a windy day and I thought I could get things. I had private pics of my wife's friends, local teenage girls, all sorts. I also got good at photoshopping pics so if someone wanted a BY girl they knew in an adult setting they'd send it to me. 

Like I said: I was as low as they come. 

I had tried before. I had multiple Google Drive accounts with thousands and thousands of pics and vids. What would always happen on the previous attempts was I'd decide to quit, then delete all the content, then a couple of weeks later be moreh heter that if I was going to fall then better to do it with frum material, and then I'd desperately spend hours with Gmail's recovery service to get the stuff back. 

This past Sukkos something happened. The big 'joke' with all this is that I have a position that has a certain chashivus to it, and so people view me as that. And I always took that seriously, but there was a double life going on (literally like the ads for GYE). On the way to shul on Shemini Atzeres (this was after I'd deleted everything for Yom Kippur and then recovered it all a few days later) it struck me: 1. I love my family so so so much, but if they knew what low down things I was doing I do not think they would be able (even if they wanted) to return that love. 2. I've fallen so far from Hashem and He has given me so much, that I need to do this because I love Him - not because of fear of the consequence.

In other words, whereas previously my motivation had always been guilt and fear, I now decided to work on it out of love: for my family, for Hashem.

Those last two days of Yom Tov were tough: I wanted to delete all my accounts but could not. In fact I think it was a good thing. 

As soon as YT was over and my kids were in bed I deleted the blog and as much posted content as I could, and emailed a request to people to remove anything else. I changed my profile to one expressing a desire to do teshuva and burned whatever bridges I could with the 'frum porn' community. 

I deliberately did NOT delete the Gmail accounts right away. Instead, I set an auto-reply explaining my desire to do teshuva and saying that the accounts would be deleted shortly. Any material that had been shared on Google Drive I unshared. Also burning bridges - some people who emailed and got my autoreply were encouraging (actually most), some where so far gone that they tried to discourage me. Losers. 

I sent apologies to whoever I could think of that their pics had been shared. I know that most did not reach their target, but I tried. 

I changed the passwords to the Google accounts. I forget what I changed it to, but it was something that would force me to think (like "Hashemdoesn'twantthis"). I waited two weeks before I deleted the accounts. I realized that in the past when I deleted them while 'high' on regret, I later had remorse and recovered them. This time I just calmly deleted them one day. Not once have I tried to recover them since that, and they are now permanently beyond recovery (Gmail gives three weeks max - it's been 10 weeks). 

B"H this has now been surprisingly easy. Not one fall since then. I had one wet dream but that was after I ate a lot of garlic and was sleeping on my back. Also - in the past I'd have used that as an excuse to be moreh heter (must be I need to get something out). This time I just cleaned up at 3am, went back to sleep, moved on. I've not had even the slightest desire to do any of this stuff. What's strange is that even some of the girls or women whose pics I had but I didn't know them, I have seen them about since then. And when I've seen them I've been able to see them as what they are: a sincere beis yaakov girl trying to serve Hashem, a loving mommy with young kids, a divorced lady who needs rachmonus. That's another angle I've been working on with this: kovod habrios. 

I realize that a lot of the above won't be specifically helpful to you. But take it from me: if I can do it, then you can too!!!!

Re: how I did it... 27 Dec 2018 12:54 #338061

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GREAT!!!!! MUCH to learn from you

Re: how I did it... 27 Dec 2018 16:50 #338065

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I thought I'd add about the positives since taking these steps:
1. I am much closer to my children and my family. 
2. I am learning much more. Much much more.
3. I am more focused on things.
4. I no longer feel like a hypocrite when giving people hadrocha.
5. I have less anxiety. If my wife asks to borrow my phone I no longer have to stand right next to her to check she doesn't open photos - just in case I forgot to delete the videos I took. I can leave my computer open and not be paranoid. And also just generally I feel less anxious.
6. It's a cliche, but there is a real feeling of freedom.

Re: how I did it... 27 Dec 2018 18:55 #338067

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Re: how I did it... 28 Dec 2018 02:45 #338072

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You are an incredible inspiration! May Hashem help you reestablish yourself and while you do that, b'ezras Hashem you will shlep up with you many dear neshamos! What a story!
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Re: how I did it... 31 Dec 2018 03:14 #338109

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I just remembered something else that helped me at the beginning. B"H I was past that pretty quickly and had forgotten:

I never decided that I wasn't going to act out. What I did decide was that if I wanted to act out then I had to do certain things first. Including learning a bit, saying Shema, making a nice treat or surprise for my kids, writing a surprise note for my wife, There were other things too - I forgot. For me it worked. Can't guarantee it for others, but at the beginning I was saved by that a few times.

Re: how I did it... 31 Dec 2018 13:05 #338112

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What I did decide was that if I wanted to act out then I had to do certain things first. Including learning a bit, saying Shema, making a nice treat or surprise for my kids, writing a surprise note for my wife, There were other things too - I forgot. For me it worked. Can't guarantee it for others, but at the beginning I was saved by that a few times.

That's great.  I really like the suggestions of writing a surprise note to your wife.  I also find that when I invest in my shalom bayis, it's becomes easier to fight this nisayon.  Congrats on making 90 days!

Re: how I did it... 29 Jan 2019 00:04 #338712

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Just want to say that I'm now up to 123 days b"h and can honestly say that I have no thad even the slightest temptation to look at anything bad. I've ha a two times where had keri at night (both times after eating a lot of garlic and right before mikey night pretty much - have to be careful with food). During the day I've seen a lot of things that would normally have been huge triggers for me but have each time just shrugged it off and been able to ignore. The idea of acting out on anything seems like a hundred steps away now b"h. Want this to be chizuk to others - I was really as low as they come in the picture trading and videos etc. world. You can do it too!!!

Re: how I did it... 29 Jan 2019 01:50 #338714

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It's cool that when we feel like it's not an option, most of the temptation goes away. I had this burning desire for a while, but now that I made a nice, custom fit TaPHSiC, majority of the taiva went away. Good luck to you, and e/o else.

Re: how I did it... 28 Jul 2022 16:46 #384055

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Wow! Just read your post.
That I Teshuva on another level I have never seen before. Just amazing!
I have no words, this is really impressive... 
Hashem must be ooverjoyed from the day you started until now.

Re: how I did it... 18 Dec 2022 04:32 #389586

WOW!
Hi, my name is ILH and I’m grateful for having to focus just on today. 
Easy does it... I don't need to be perfect. 
If you figured out my identity, don't be shy, come say hi! 
It takes tons of courage to fight the good fight, but we don't have to do it all alone. 
My Story: guardyoureyes.com/forum/19-Introduce-Yourself/385922-My-Story-Being-Honest-For-Once

Re: how I did it... 18 Dec 2022 04:33 #389587

imeinanili wrote on 29 Jan 2019 00:04:
Just want to say that I'm now up to 123 days b"h and can honestly say that I have no thad even the slightest temptation to look at anything bad. I've ha a two times where had keri at night (both times after eating a lot of garlic and right before mikey night pretty much - have to be careful with food). During the day I've seen a lot of things that would normally have been huge triggers for me but have each time just shrugged it off and been able to ignore. The idea of acting out on anything seems like a hundred steps away now b"h. Want this to be chizuk to others - I was really as low as they come in the picture trading and videos etc. world. You can do it too!!!

I never even knew such a world existed, that's pretty crazy.... did you reach out to your "custmers" so they do teshuva too?
Hi, my name is ILH and I’m grateful for having to focus just on today. 
Easy does it... I don't need to be perfect. 
If you figured out my identity, don't be shy, come say hi! 
It takes tons of courage to fight the good fight, but we don't have to do it all alone. 
My Story: guardyoureyes.com/forum/19-Introduce-Yourself/385922-My-Story-Being-Honest-For-Once

Re: how I did it... 18 Dec 2022 08:13 #389600

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Re: how I did it... 18 Dec 2022 21:25 #389613

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imeinanili wrote on 27 Dec 2018 11:37:
I just made it to 90 - first time ever. Previously I never got even close (I think 14 days was my max). ...............

.................In other words, whereas previously my motivation had always been guilt and fear, I now decided to work on it out of love: for my family, for Hashem...................

..................I waited two weeks before I deleted the accounts. I realized that in the past when I deleted them while 'high' on regret, I later had remorse and recovered them. This time I just calmly deleted them one day. Not once have I tried to recover them since that..................


What an incredible post. The lowness of the action, the exaltedness of this person, such a beautiful and authentic post. Thank you!

If only others we would try loving our challenged parts and accepting them and not calling them "bad" maybe it would help us heal, when we are trying so long to win our struggle by ostracizing the parts of us that are struggling and its not working, maybe its time to start loving them and accepting them, SIMULER to what is written so beautifully here, .........In other words, whereas previously my motivation had always been guilt and fear, I now decided to work on it out of love: for my family, for Hashem........... He suggests focusing on love of hashem, your family, i would say out of love for yourself could be another great reason!
I'm sick of the Un-scientific approach of today's medical and social environment. 
we will never heal and become a better society unless we realize that all people are addicts. Any thing we do that we aren't interested in is "addiction" and medicine doesn't fix addictions. 

Pain causes addiction and medicine cant fix pain. 

Unless we heal our pain, and become truama conscious so as not to cause others pain, we will never be living in a functioning human society.
Last Edit: 19 Dec 2022 03:48 by human being.

Re: how I did it... 18 Dec 2022 22:16 #389617

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Human being wrote on 18 Dec 2022 21:25:

imeinanili wrote on 27 Dec 2018 11:37:
I just made it to 90 - first time ever. Previously I never got even close (I think 14 days was my max). ...............

.................In other words, whereas previously my motivation had always been guilt and fear, I now decided to work on it out of love: for my family, for Hashem...................

..................I waited two weeks before I deleted the accounts. I realized that in the past when I deleted them while 'high' on regret, I later had remorse and recovered them. This time I just calmly deleted them one day. Not once have I tried to recover them since that..................




What an incredible post. The lowness of the action, the exaltedness of this person, such a beautiful and authentic post. Thank you!

If only others we would try loving our challenged parts and accepting them and not calling them "bad" maybe it would help us heal, when we are trying so long to win our struggle by ostracizing the parts of us that are struggling and its not working, maybe its time to start loving them and accepting them, like it is said so beautifully here, .........In other words, whereas previously my motivation had always been guilt and fear, I now decided to work on it out of love: for my family, for Hashem...........

HB, 
the post, as you quoted it, does not refer to loving and accepting the parts that are struggling.  That may be a wonderful thought, but it is not the message of the original poster back in 2018.  His message was that he decided to motivate himself to stay clean out of love for hashem and his family.  (previously his motivation had been guilt and fear for doing the wrong thing).  He may or may not have decided to love and accept his challenged parts.

best wishes for continued success,
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