Humanoids that are not aspie like me cannot exist w/o social life



IMHO if you scrap wattsap it'll push you to build your social life with real people eg talking to dov



And hey the better you work on this the better your marriage will be :-)

Aryeh821 wrote on 28 Jul 2016 02:47:

If I understand you correctly, you're willing to change to a more simple phone?
I have done that a long time ago, it's not easy but that is what I need for today.
Yes I miss out alot, but what won't I do in order to stay sober?
Others will tell you you can put a good filter and stay with the smart phone.

I think that you, and only you can answer your own question, who knows you like yourself?
Best wishes

I hear you, but I'm not sure what to tell you.  I hear your dilemma.

It's interesting that you choose to ask anonymous internet "friends" advice regarding whether or not retaining real connections with real people is a good idea.

Bigmoish wrote on 28 Jul 2016 18:12:

Are you sure that is what he's asking?

Making decisions to get rid of things in life is always hard to do. The logical process is actually quite simple, does the positive outweigh the negative? It seems over here that is doesn't. The hard part, for me at least, is letting go. I still want to have those "bottles" available so I can take a drink, even if I know intellectually what is right.

OOoh!! I got a new thread idea..

"Can't bring yourself to give up those pesky things? Give 'em away on the LetGo thread..."

Hello all its been quite a while 
after to taking to Dov and another member i have come to conclusion that to get soberity i MUST tell my parents at least part of what i am going through (even just writing that sentence was hard and felt like a surrender) however i am to put it Lightly extremely dreading this i feel like im stuck between a rock (porn /masturbation) and a hard place(telling my parents) but the rock isn't so much hard as a comfortable envoloping sense urging me to stay in my comfort zone and keep hiding 
does anyone have any experience with telling there parents or the like ?

I have found I have never made progress staying in my comfort zone. Only when I faced the pain did I move forward. I wish you all the best with your parents. They love you. 

I had to tell my wife. Not exactly the same but still terrifying. She was amazing and totally supportive and helpful. The fear was much worse than the reality. 

I think that what has really helped me is to make sure that I don't tell then something they aren't ready for. I have told them things but in somewhat vague terms. Specifics aren't necessary I don't think. 

Yeah I was wondering the same why does dov say you should tell all to them. Also have you shared with your Rebbi, cos I think that can sometimes be more productive

Markz wrote:

 Dov didnt say to reveal ALL (sorry if i was misleading) the reason why i have to reveal at least something is to get access to a psychologist 
i did tell my mashgiach and he was helpful to a point but his focus (not in anyway his fault) was on the yetser hora part of it not the addiction part

So Should i go ahead with it ?

Aryeh821 wrote on 14 Oct 2016 16:36:

How many opinions do you want?