ineedchizuk wrote:


I guess the ultimate goal should be, to also FEEL like doing what you WANT to do.

thanks shvisi
thinking out of the box, is not a talent a lot of people share
i mean there is a reason for the box to begin with!!
although sometimes it takes a good box to wake someone up.
and if you box is a screen, then one should definitely, think out of it, or alternately box the box.

lavi
COOL! Me too!!!!! I love that place! Its like home to me!

lavi
Absolutely!! And thats exactly how i feel! I am a Baal Tshuvah and Religion does give me purpose in life. How is that a Steera to what I am saying? In fact keeping clean is helping me find that purpose as when i was lusting i was escaping from my purpose in life (and of course life in general) And of course i am Frum and doing mitzvos but i think, at least for me, thats not enough to be clean. I need something else as well.

lavi
...you feel frustrated about your current siituation, you may be surprised how religion can help you as a tool for recovery. especially if someone has failed repeatedly in his efforts. I am confused?? How are you defining religion. I do have peace of mind, because I have realized Hashem runs the world! Not me! That is so relieving. I can relax and concentrate on only what I need to do and Everything will turn out just fine! That is so relaxing! In terms of principles of Hashkafah, it could give us peace of mind, yea, but it don't think that will completely help us get out. But then again, its not like we are completely separating religion from addiction. Because, a core component of addiction is emuna and bitachon which of course are core principles to Judaism. Also that there is God. Maybe i am just confused now. I don't know. Too much thinking for me!

ok dms, thanks for response.
i don't wanna overload on anyone (even myself) so i will try to point out a few things that helped me, based on what i wrote above.
1) getting involved in a new/fresh limud has given me extra zest for life and has contributed in feeling less urges for evil.
2) coming to davening on time has also (this involved going to bed on time)
3) helping out spouse and kids a little bit more.
Notice these represent 3 amudim. torah avodah and gemilas chasadim. the aim is a filled neshama has less urge and time to act out.
BUT i also need to be on gye!! and also have healthy outlets. and i'm sure others need more than this. just pointing out the getting involved in good things has contributed to my recovery.