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Striving for kedusha 13 Jan 2025 21:11 #429029

There was a flyer in yeshiva about the esa einai shovavim project, and as a 20 year old I figured It’s worth a try.

In 10th grade, I started to watch porn, and shortly thereafter started masterbating. In the beginning it was only sporadic, but with time it became more frequent. My thinking at the time was that this is something all teen agers do, and it’s part of    
natural development. No one had ever taught me  otherwise

In 12th grade, my rebbe gave a strong shmuz about motzi zera levatala. I approached him afterwards, and he said focusing in learning is the 
best antedote. I was able to cut down on the porn, not the masterbation. 

As stated previously, the esa einai project is geared to bachurim and worth a try. Additionally, I 
intend to review the material on this site, and reach out to the people mentioned in the threads.

To be honest, though I’m motivated, I don’t think I can stop. I am easily triggered, and have tried very hard to stop without success. Frankly, I don’t 
think it’s possible if you are single without an outlet. 

There are some threads of people reporting success. But I haven’t seen one by a bachur who is easily triggered and has been struggling for several years. 

So it might be s good idea to post and report my progress or lack thereof. More importantly, I would be interested in hearing from any bachur my age who has been able to stop. It doesn’t seem possible to me prior to marriage. While i have no sctual knowledge, it seems to me that all 
bachurim struggle with this to some extent.-

So in short, while I’d like to get totally clean, I’m not overly optimistic. I’m approaching this with an open mind and would be interested in being apprised by other bachurim what has worked for you.

Clearly it’s a serious aveira. However is this something a bachur can completely abstain from with all the triggers? I haven’t done a study, but I think all bachurim are nichshal to some extent. Maybe I’m wrong. 

Hoping to get Kadosh and clean. I’d be interested in hearing your thoughts. 

Re: Striving for kedusha 13 Jan 2025 21:16 #429031

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HI! Welcome to the most amazing family on earth, my friend! You sound like an amazing guy!
My friend, I've spoken to many, many bachurim, and I can assure you that many sounded exactly like you, are still a little while away from shidduchim etc., and without an outlet, and they are doing wonderfully! And you can, too! 
Looking forward to watching you soar!
Feel free to say hi. My email is 1gimpelovitz@gmail.com

Re: Striving for kedusha 13 Jan 2025 21:38 #429034

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Shalom Brother and welcome!

I strongly suggest you join the lucky bochurim that got to connect with Reb Eerie - his email is in his signature: 1gimpelovitz@gmail.com

Another thing you might check out is the book The Battle of the Generation, available on Amazon and free on GYE via the link. It has helped many to reframe their mindset in this fight.

Stay in touch with the oilam here and BezH you'll see hatzlacha.
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Re: Striving for kedusha 13 Jan 2025 21:52 #429036

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I’ve spoken to a couple of bochrim who’ve been clean for years they just don’t talk about it so we don’t really know them an outlet won’t help you most cases it only gets worse truth is masterbaition and porn have nothing to do with sex it’s two separate things and one will not help the other from me a bocher to you what I would recommend is if you think you can’t stop witch is possible at least learn how to minimize the masterbaition and stop the porn and how to get up after a fall witch gye is very good for porn will ruin your view on women and will make shidduchim a whole lot harder than it is already I’m speaking from experience here at the end of the day it doesn’t hurt to try and minimize your use of these things witch is definitely possible without a doubt 

Re: Striving for kedusha 14 Jan 2025 00:12 #429049

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Welcome! Kudos for trying to tackle this before you get married. Trust me, you REALLY want to kick the habit before you start dating and get married.
Personally, I only started m******ing after I got married. Not once did I do it before I got married. So it’s definitely possible. Also, Like somebody else said on here, s*x and p**n are not the same thing. The idea that if you have an outlet you wont be drawn to p**n is simply false, unfortunately.

Wishing you best of luck on your journey 

Re: Striving for kedusha 14 Jan 2025 00:46 #429053

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Hi seekingkedusha1! I don't often post, but I couldn't resist responding to yours!
I am a Bochur in yeshiva, and 20 years old. I'm not sure about the 'getting triggered easily' part, but I can say that I've been "Around the Block" with this inyan. I've been clean for a while now, and I can testify that it is one hundred percent possible. The best part is, that not only is it possible, but last year's Esa Einai project played a major role in my journey. You have definitely come to the right place, and with some help and a bit of work you'll be on your way to a brighter and fulfilling future. Feel free to reach out if you want to schmooze, my email is iyhashem50@gmail.com.
Looking forward to hearing from you! Hatzlacha Rabbah!
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Re: Striving for kedusha 14 Jan 2025 13:18 #429085

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Before I got married I was in the same matzav. I spoke to the mashgiach who was very receptive and understanding.

He encouraged me to join a vaad of other bachurim who were in a similar situation. At first I was reluctant because I didn’t want others to know I was being nichshal. But with his repeated suggestions , I joined. 

All discussions in the vaad are confidential. It was a group of 5 bachurim,  including ones considered very chashuv. I found others that I could open up to and get guidance and support. We met on a weekly basis.

Over time it was very helpful in dealing with the urges. Admittedly, the problem didn’t go away, but I had a support network. 

Maybe you could join a vaad. You’ll find a chevra who are also faced with this nisayon. I do not know if the problem is as extensive as you contend, but there are others going through the same.
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