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Re: Rock Bottom 07 Nov 2024 16:20 #424593

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yosefms wrote on 07 Nov 2024 16:04:
Hello to everyone,

I was in a very bad when I wrote my post a few days ago and although it helped me to write out all my struggles and downfalls you also end up feeling very vulnerable as I'm sure everyone can relate to.  Even though it's anonymous you are still sharing the most private, sensitive and unflattering parts of your life in a public space.    Boruch Hashem so many people reached out and restored my faith in myself which was utterly lost just by being positive and realising that a person can always fix themselves.  I've now booked an appointment at tag to install a filter on the offending device which is long overdue and feeling much better about myself for doing it.  A big shout out to Eerie for being incredible!

Reb Yosef,

Its really great to hear that you are feeling better about yourself. There’s nothing like a good dose of chicken soup for the soul, served by our dear eerie  !!

That being said, I would encourage you to think about your situation, the proclivity to numb using porn and masturbation, and, specifically, its alarming progression. Making sad feelings feel better (chizuk bl’’az) will probably not help much in the long run. There’s a good chance that there’s a lot of deeper emotional work that needs to happen. A guy doesn’t just pick himself up and visit a prostitute for no reason.

Discovering the underlying triggers that make us do stupid sh*t is sooooo important…I hope I am not sounding like I'm preaching on the proverbial soapbox, I need loads of help with this too. I’m working on it. It takes a lot of effort.

I hope you have tons of hatzlacha!

Re: Rock Bottom 07 Nov 2024 16:33 #424594

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I totally agree there is a huge amount of deep emotional issues that will need exploring and unravelling and then fixing but I am sharing my wins and getting a filter on the computer is going to help massively, step 1 has to be remove the temptation.  

Re: Rock Bottom 13 Nov 2024 11:30 #424993

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Hello people,

I thought I'd give you an update of where I'm at.  It's day 12 on the count and it feels like millions of years since I wrote my first post.  Since that post I have spoken with HHM a couple of times which shook me into action and with Eerie every day which has been a huge source of help and inspiration.  The filter on my phone was already in place and working perfectly, a big issue I had was access to my wife's computer which now has a proper filter so the ability of looking where I shouldn't on the computer has been removed.  Obviously the problem goes far deeper than that but No 1 has to be sort out the filter. I'd like to share some great Eitzas that my new friends at GYE shared with me that have been life changing;

1) Benhashem BH said "Work on shemiras einayim. Every time you didn't look or looked away or committed to not look an additional time, send up a quick tefilla asking Hashem for something. Anything. It doesn't matter what you say, just that you are talking to Hashem and that connects Him to your actions." This is a beautiful peace of advice as you're connecting your challenges with Hashem in a seriously meaningful way.  In your zchis I've raised up many teffilos!
2) iwantlife encouraged me to buy and read the book Battle of the generation which I'm in the middle of and would definitely recommend to all. 
3) HHM has given me practical eitzas firstly, put a filter on the internet! He asked me if I would have treif chocolate in the house and if not why do you have treif internet with no filter? No good answer to that question.  Also practical eitzas of relieving stress like going for a walk and plenty of other stuff to calm the body down.
4) Eerie basically anything and everything he says helps me to understand myself and be a better yid and human being in general.  

Joining GYE is definitely the best thing I could have done and I do plan to keep updating this page regularly with other practical eitzas because this entire process has got me thinking completely differently about working on myself/self exploration/discovery  in a much more general way.

Re: Rock Bottom 13 Nov 2024 18:34 #425024

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yosefms wrote on 13 Nov 2024 11:30:
Hello people,


1) Benhashem BH said "Work on shemiras einayim. Every time you didn't look or looked away or committed to not look an additional time, send up a quick tefilla asking Hashem for something. Anything. It doesn't matter what you say, just that you are talking to Hashem and that connects Him to your actions." This is a beautiful peace of advice as you're connecting your challenges with Hashem in a seriously meaningful way.  In your zchis I've raised up many teffilos!

Joining GYE is definitely the best thing I could have done and I do plan to keep updating this page regularly with other practical eitzas because this entire process has got me thinking completely differently about working on myself/self exploration/discovery  in a much more general way.

Beautiful post, Yosef EMES!
That's a beautiful thought from Ben H. If I may add another benefit of doing so. When we struggle with these things, we receive much more negative feedback than positive feedback. Meaning, when we walk in the street, for example, and we looked once for 30 seconds where we shouldn't, but we spent 10 minutes guarding our eyes properly, we still feel like losers. Why? Because the thing we did wrong gives us emotional feedback. We FEEL the negativity. On the other hand, the thing we did right, the not-looking, doesn't give us any feedback, as that doesn't affect our emotions. So, how do we combat that? How do we keep positive, how do we get our wins to process through our emotions? One way is through thinking (what's that? ) Spend time reinforcing how special you are! Another way is keeping track of it, be it with a clicker, a paper with checks, whatever works for you.
And here's is where BenH's idea comes in as well. If we use the opportunity to daven, we can reinforce in our own minds the power of what we are doing, that we are not just not looking, we are doing something positive! We are accomplishing! We have zechusim up on high for this!

Yosef, keep k'nocking, soaring, smiling...and trucking!
Feel free to say hi. My email is 1gimpelovitz@gmail.com

Re: Rock Bottom 13 Nov 2024 18:39 #425026

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yosefms wrote on 13 Nov 2024 11:30:
Hello people,

I thought I'd give you an update of where I'm at.  It's day 12 on the count and it feels like millions of years since I wrote my first post.  Since that post I have spoken with HHM a couple of times which shook me into action and with Eerie every day which has been a huge source of help and inspiration.  The filter on my phone was already in place and working perfectly, a big issue I had was access to my wife's computer which now has a proper filter so the ability of looking where I shouldn't on the computer has been removed.  Obviously the problem goes far deeper than that but No 1 has to be sort out the filter. I'd like to share some great Eitzas that my new friends at GYE shared with me that have been life changing;

1) Benhashem BH said "Work on shemiras einayim. Every time you didn't look or looked away or committed to not look an additional time, send up a quick tefilla asking Hashem for something. Anything. It doesn't matter what you say, just that you are talking to Hashem and that connects Him to your actions." This is a beautiful peace of advice as you're connecting your challenges with Hashem in a seriously meaningful way.  In your zchis I've raised up many teffilos!
2) iwantlife encouraged me to buy and read the book Battle of the generation which I'm in the middle of and would definitely recommend to all. 
3) HHM has given me practical eitzas firstly, put a filter on the internet! He asked me if I would have treif chocolate in the house and if not why do you have treif internet with no filter? No good answer to that question.  Also practical eitzas of relieving stress like going for a walk and plenty of other stuff to calm the body down.
4) Eerie basically anything and everything he says helps me to understand myself and be a better yid and human being in general.  

Joining GYE is definitely the best thing I could have done and I do plan to keep updating this page regularly with other practical eitzas because this entire process has got me thinking completely differently about working on myself/self exploration/discovery  in a much more general way.

KEEP ON HOLDING UP THE WORLD!! KOHOTW

Re: Rock Bottom 13 Nov 2024 19:59 #425035

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Welcome brother. All I can say is, if you got Eerie and HHM on the phone, a kick in the pants from YKW, tips from BH, and IWL, you have a recipe for success. Now begins the real work. Hatzlacha on your journey!
Feel free to email me at amevakesh23@gmail.com

Re: Rock Bottom 02 Dec 2024 15:10 #426283

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Day 31

Just a shout out to everyone to say Boruch Hashem שֶׁהֶחֱיָנוּ וְקִיְּמָנוּ וְהִגִּיעָנוּ לַזְמַן הַזֶּה.  I had a thought that I'd like to share. 
We make a שֶׁהֶחֱיָנוּ on a  מלבוש חדש. Apparently the word personality comes from the latin word "persona" which means a mask.  Sometimes we get stuck in our thinking.  We think "I cant change its my personality", "its just the way I am" but the truth is our personality is a mask that we can take off if we don't like it and we can change it to something totally different and positive.  I was stuck in negative thinking for a long long time but Boruch Hashem that has changed thanks to GYE and my new friends. 

Re: Rock Bottom 02 Dec 2024 15:37 #426284

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Wow you fell deep but got back up with energy, inspiring my friend mazal tov on 31 days and Hatzlocha on your journey.
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Re: Rock Bottom 02 Dec 2024 15:37 #426285

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Mazel Tov R' Yosef! You're a true inspiration!
May you be zoche to rocket from rock bottom to the highest heights!
"Believe you can and you're halfway there" - Theodore Roosevelt
"Comparison is the thief of joy" - also Theodore Roosevelt

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Re: Rock Bottom 02 Dec 2024 18:15 #426297

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yosefms wrote on 02 Dec 2024 15:10:
Day 31

Just a shout out to everyone to say Boruch Hashem שֶׁהֶחֱיָנוּ וְקִיְּמָנוּ וְהִגִּיעָנוּ לַזְמַן הַזֶּה.  I had a thought that I'd like to share. 
We make a שֶׁהֶחֱיָנוּ on a  מלבוש חדש. Apparently the word personality comes from the latin word "persona" which means a mask.  Sometimes we get stuck in our thinking.  We think "I cant change its my personality", "its just the way I am" but the truth is our personality is a mask that we can take off if we don't like it and we can change it to something totally different and positive.  I was stuck in negative thinking for a long long time but Boruch Hashem that has changed thanks to GYE and my new friends. 

Mazal Tov on the milestone, Reb Yosef!
If I may respectfully disagree. You are not making a bracha here on your new malbush. You are creating a whole new inside!!!! You changing who you are, step by step, day by day! You have done work, and continue to do wirk, and must continue even further, on the inner parts of yourself, growing and discovering, and changing for better and better! 
You are an inspiration!
Feel free to say hi. My email is 1gimpelovitz@gmail.com

Re: Rock Bottom 03 Dec 2024 12:04 #426368

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I couldn't agree more, that is the plan IYH, with a little help from my friends!

Re: Rock Bottom 11 Dec 2024 11:15 #426906

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Hello to all my Heilege brothers,

Boruch Hashem, I have arrived at day 40 and feeling top of the rock rather than rock bottom, so I've decided to share some of my thoughts as 40 is an auspicious number throughout the Torah;
  • The Mabul lasted for 40 days (and nights) 
  • The yidden traveled through the desert for 40 years
  • Moshe Rabbeinu spent 40 days (and nights) on Har Sinai before bringing down the Luchos 

:pinch: Warning: Spoiler!
 The Gemoro says in Yevomas that an embryo takes 40 days to form

  • Pirkei ovos tell us that at age 40 we arrive at bina which means at the basic level, the ability to reflect and apply the information that what we already know. 

The point being that 40 is a zman which is mesugal of change and improvement.  If anyone reading this feels that they've done so many stupid things and can't change.........well think again because ​The ikur of Tshuva takes only one second of your life.! 

Re: Rock Bottom 12 Dec 2024 06:32 #426964

Hi i also had a similar Struggle at one point. First of all I am very impressed that you are keeping strong, keeping your sedarim... Learning. 2nd you have to know that most stuff you see that you could hook up with a zoina are just  robots or ai, it's one big scam and eventually they end up getting a lot of money from you. I myself got caught up in this and lost a lot of money. 3 I am just throwing it out there never discuss this with your wife cuz they usually don't understand this nisayon. I would suggest reaching out to one of the gye monirator to hook you up with a mentor.... Or something else that would work for you. Hold on strong keep fighting. We all have struggles. Let's fight together. Keep strong. God loves you.

Re: Rock Bottom 12 Dec 2024 11:11 #426971

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Thank  you for sharing that and I'm so sorry to hear that went through that, but sounds like you're in a much better place.  I also appreciate your chizuk.

I absolutely agree with your point about discussing this with wives, not a good idea and is actually self soothing and most likely will cause irreparable damage to a relationship. Although no blanket rules other than discuss with an expert GYE mentor.  On that point, speaking to a GYE moderator/mentor is critical for most people and personally R' Eerie has been there for me from day 1!

Re: Rock Bottom 12 Dec 2024 12:19 #426973

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Reb Yosef,

Wishing you lots of continued Hatzlocho.. IYH you should go from strength to strength..  Just thought i would mention I haven't seen this series recommended so much but i am listening to it now (and the marriage one) and i have found them immensly helpful.

theshmuz.com/series/the-fight/  this is really worth listening too!

Wishing you continued Brocho and Hatzlocho
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