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Re: A long walk to.... Nowhere. 02 Nov 2022 03:30 #387140

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There's probably almost zero chance any woman would be maskim. Women are very emotional people so they can have feelings for guys and find them attractive but they would never be with them until they connect emotionally first. If someone just walks over to them to ask for sex, they're 99.99% of the time gonna turn it down because 1) They didn't connect with you emotionally. 2) Women have much more self control for these things. Only men could have sex and not care about the person they're with because men focus more on the outside (naturally). That is just how men and women are naturally. For a woman (with a healthy mind), sex is about connecting to a loved one, not just pure pleasure. Now, I'm only a bochur and never had any sex, but I'm familiar with the concept of foreplay which I assume is enticing her to like you by connecting emotionally. Just asking for sex shows that you don't care about her as a person rather as an object and that is a turnoff for women. So I'm saying this in order to tell u not to even bother with these walks because I GUARANTEE it won't work or get you anywhere. You're just wasting your time. And you cant possibly care about a random stranger after talking for a few minutes. Just saying if in some crazy situation she would agree, chances are she's not mentally healthy at all because she has such a low self image that she needs to give her body to others just to feel good about herself, chances are she's been with a lot more men and probably has tons of diseases that will ruin your life forever. And probably isn't like a 50/50, its more like a 99.99% chance. It's not worth it. And like some people here mentioned there's also legal issues with that. Like @Geshmak! and others have said, please get help asap.
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Re: A long walk to.... Nowhere. 03 Nov 2022 17:36 #387215

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Broken soul i second your post. Im sorry to diagnose you my dear noshimnosher, but you have OCD. what you are having is called compulsions. If you have compulsions that you cant control, especially of such a nature (NO judgment zone, I'm not judging here) Then GO GET THE HELP YOU NEED!!!! Help is available!
I'm sick of the Un-scientific approach of today's medical and social environment. 
we will never heal and become a better society unless we realize that all people are addicts. Any thing we do that we aren't interested in is "addiction" and medicine doesn't fix addictions. 

Pain causes addiction and medicine cant fix pain. 

Unless we heal our pain, and become truama conscious so as not to cause others pain, we will never be living in a functioning human society.
Last Edit: 03 Nov 2022 17:37 by human being.

Re: A long walk to.... Nowhere. 20 Nov 2022 21:27 #388019

Why am I not just a regular guy just like all of you, with my own unique challenges and struggles. Bec mine are more preverted and directed at nice frum married women, makes me less of a person than you guys are?

Re: A long walk to.... Nowhere. 20 Nov 2022 21:36 #388020

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noshimnosher wrote on 20 Nov 2022 21:27:
Why am I not just a regular guy just like all of you, with my own unique challenges and struggles. Bec mine are more preverted and directed at nice frum married women, makes me less of a person than you guys are?

@noshimnosher, have you read MY story? You can read it here…https://guardyoureyes.com/forum/19-Introduce-Yourself/386447-Still-work-to-do-but-there-is-always-hope%21

I feel that you are MUCH more normal and less perverted than I was/am. So please try to change the narrative in your mind. You have a problem that is manifesting itself in a difficult and challenging way. But you are not a pervert. You are a regular guy! You just need to determine what is causing your behavior and resolve it so you can end the negative behavior. I am not c”v competing with you, I just want to show you that your categorization of yourself is distorted by your guilt and shame. Don’t beat yourself up, build yourself up!! We are all here to help. Despair is counterproductive. Sending hugs your way. 

Re: A long walk to.... Nowhere. 21 Nov 2022 02:40 #388038

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Chas veshalom. Just because you have a less conventional answer, we all have the same problem. Your normal!
I'm sick of the Un-scientific approach of today's medical and social environment. 
we will never heal and become a better society unless we realize that all people are addicts. Any thing we do that we aren't interested in is "addiction" and medicine doesn't fix addictions. 

Pain causes addiction and medicine cant fix pain. 

Unless we heal our pain, and become truama conscious so as not to cause others pain, we will never be living in a functioning human society.

Re: A long walk to.... Nowhere. 21 Nov 2022 23:53 #388071

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noshimnosher wrote on 20 Nov 2022 21:27:
Why am I not just a regular guy just like all of you, with my own unique challenges and struggles. Bec mine are more preverted and directed at nice frum married women, makes me less of a person than you guys are?

wait, your asking nice frum women on the street to have sex with you?

Re: A long walk to.... Nowhere. 22 Nov 2022 04:39 #388084

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yud909 wrote on 21 Nov 2022 23:53:

noshimnosher wrote on 20 Nov 2022 21:27:
Why am I not just a regular guy just like all of you, with my own unique challenges and struggles. Bec mine are more preverted and directed at nice frum married women, makes me less of a person than you guys are?

wait, your asking nice frum women on the street to have sex with you?

Yes he is. And he is normal and a human being just like the rest of us. He has his own unique struggle just like the rest of us. We all have our "dark" side that we feel we cant reveal. One who reveals it is in a way better place then one who cant. So im proud that he revealed his struggle. Good for him!! So brave!
I'm sick of the Un-scientific approach of today's medical and social environment. 
we will never heal and become a better society unless we realize that all people are addicts. Any thing we do that we aren't interested in is "addiction" and medicine doesn't fix addictions. 

Pain causes addiction and medicine cant fix pain. 

Unless we heal our pain, and become truama conscious so as not to cause others pain, we will never be living in a functioning human society.

Re: A long walk to.... Nowhere. 22 Nov 2022 05:08 #388086

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Human being wrote on 22 Nov 2022 04:39:

yud909 wrote on 21 Nov 2022 23:53:

noshimnosher wrote on 20 Nov 2022 21:27:
Why am I not just a regular guy just like all of you, with my own unique challenges and struggles. Bec mine are more preverted and directed at nice frum married women, makes me less of a person than you guys are?

wait, your asking nice frum women on the street to have sex with you?

Yes he is. And he is normal and a human being just like the rest of us. He has his own unique struggle just like the rest of us. We all have our "dark" side that we feel we cant reveal. One who reveals it is in a way better place then one who cant. So im proud that he revealed his struggle. Good for him!! So brave!

I don’t think he meant that… I sure hope not!
Guys the only way were really gonna get help is with H’s help so we gotta beg him for help and he sure will help us cause he wants us helped!!
CRY TO HIM!!
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Re: A long walk to.... Nowhere. 22 Nov 2022 18:26 #388112

Yes I am referring to regular frum married women that I go over to.

Re: A long walk to.... Nowhere. 22 Nov 2022 21:24 #388115

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Did anyone mentioned that someone can get arrested by doing that? Maybe depends where you live...

Re: A long walk to.... Nowhere. 23 Nov 2022 03:49 #388131

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noshimnosher wrote on 22 Nov 2022 18:26:
Yes I am referring to regular frum married women that I go over to.

Oish! That is terrible if you ask me … no offense we all have our own challenges but this got stop really fast for your own good besides you might get arrested and thrown out of your community and destroy your life forever c’v…But even worse it’s a terrible חילל ה׳! Like if you have a tavah and you get dressed up as a giy and ask a shiktzah to have sex it’s bad but at least your not embarrassing H’s holy nation! But if you go over to a Frum woman and ask to have sex ( firstly she probably doesn’t know what you want from her but just know your want to do something bad) and if she does know she’s thinking like help is this what yidden do! Dear noshimnosher please please please stop doing this and please get the help you need ASAP! Before it might cv be to late…
ps there is a גמרה abt this… המבין יבין
Guys the only way were really gonna get help is with H’s help so we gotta beg him for help and he sure will help us cause he wants us helped!!
CRY TO HIM!!
https://guardyoureyes.com/forum/2-What-Works-for-Me/387630-Powerful!#387630

Feel free to pm me!
Last Edit: 23 Nov 2022 13:54 by geshmak!.

Re: A long walk to.... Nowhere. 23 Nov 2022 12:34 #388149

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How someone's desires and urges manifest themselves can be very varied. If someone's specific desire is for frum women on the street, he is no different in concept than the guy who desires chat lines, SSA, masturbation, specific types of pornography viewing - with all the various possibilities, etc.  It all boils down to the same thing.  However, the specific urge being discussed - approaching a frum woman on the street is fraught with dangerous repercussions. As opposed to one who is indulging in pornography/chat lines in a private location, or having sex with people who advertise their availability and willingness for that, one who approaches strangers is risking a jail sentence, being scratched and bitten, publicly shamed, and being petitioned to have to leave the neighborhood/shul etc. The consequences for him and his family are potentially enormous. I have spoken to two people - through GYE - who unfortunately did this to themselves and their families with horrifying results. Both of them never asked their "victim" outright, but stalked them - followed , stared constantly. One did it with a frum woman, and one with a goyishe neighbor. Imagine how much more devastating it would be for one to actually solicit sex.

So although you are as healthy or unhealthy as the rest of us here, you are playing with a very dangerous fire that others are not. We all need or needed help, but you need help IMMEDIATELY. Save yourself and your family from potential disaster.
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Re: A long walk to.... Nowhere. 23 Nov 2022 13:41 #388150

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I want to thank a very special person that sent me a email regarding the post that used to be here and explainedded nicely that it was not a true or good post so I deleted it,…
btw anybody that ever feels I wrote a post that’s not good or not gonna do good to others or not appropriate etc. please please please email me, thank you למאפריה..
Guys the only way were really gonna get help is with H’s help so we gotta beg him for help and he sure will help us cause he wants us helped!!
CRY TO HIM!!
https://guardyoureyes.com/forum/2-What-Works-for-Me/387630-Powerful!#387630

Feel free to pm me!
Last Edit: 24 Nov 2022 03:50 by geshmak!.

Re: A long walk to.... Nowhere. 23 Nov 2022 18:59 #388165

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Yes. Even though the cause of your behavior is the same as everyone else-which makes you normal-the behavior its causing, is way more dangerous (physically not spiritually) then the behaviors others are involved in.  Feel free to private message me if you want to talk over your best options for help. I'm sure others would love to be here for you privately too. I'm non judgmental no matter what, So feel free. But please understand, We support you here. We love you here. We want to see the best for you here. No body here wants anything bad to happen to you chas veshalom. We all want to let you know that you have a place here to reach out, and we are urging you to utilize this safe space to reach out and begin your journey to healing before you do anything that will send you backwards down a deep ravine into a wirl-pool of jailtime-bail-shame and heart break. We love you always. Stay safe.
I'm sick of the Un-scientific approach of today's medical and social environment. 
we will never heal and become a better society unless we realize that all people are addicts. Any thing we do that we aren't interested in is "addiction" and medicine doesn't fix addictions. 

Pain causes addiction and medicine cant fix pain. 

Unless we heal our pain, and become truama conscious so as not to cause others pain, we will never be living in a functioning human society.
Last Edit: 23 Nov 2022 19:00 by human being.

Re: A long walk to.... Nowhere. 28 Nov 2022 00:45 #388365

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Dear noshi…. 
what’s up? How’s it going? Any updates? Have you reached out to Hhm dov ???
Guys the only way were really gonna get help is with H’s help so we gotta beg him for help and he sure will help us cause he wants us helped!!
CRY TO HIM!!
https://guardyoureyes.com/forum/2-What-Works-for-Me/387630-Powerful!#387630

Feel free to pm me!
Last Edit: 28 Nov 2022 00:45 by geshmak!.
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