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Re: Boyfriend-girlfriend relationship 19 Dec 2021 23:02 #375071

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Bh. Getting a lot of חיזוק from you. Keep it up:like:

Re: Boyfriend-girlfriend relationship 24 Dec 2021 05:22 #375226

Huge mazal tov!!!

Im sure you know but I guess I'm chayav to say anyway- make sure you don't get too comfortable and let your guard down

And if you do fall get right back up.. the second you act out a second time you exponentially make it harder to get back up 

If you stay strong you can realistically live clean for the rest of your life from this point. And אינו דומה to living with unending fight. Maybe there's a few bumps on the way and thats fine as long as they stay bumps. And for fear that they won't stay bumps definitely don't seek out to make bumps.

Sorry for the words of caution at this time of joy 

Really inspiring what you've done and hopefully you inspire many other people as well

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Think about how good you'll feel if you say no to desire and compare that to how bad you'll feel if you say yes.

Desire is unique in the way that it is never fulfilled -  if you give in the desire comes back even more powerful in just a few days. Telling yourself that its ok because this is really the last time doesn't work because you are just adding new images to your head that will cause future falls.

The Joy of triumph over the yetzer hara is worth the effort it takes to win. It IS worth it! Keep fighting!


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Re: Boyfriend-girlfriend relationship 13 Jan 2022 03:13 #375859

Hey all… this is a nice powerful lesson… 

“Tried everything”

Shmuel - has a struggle with porn.. he gets triggered and falls every now and then… he can’t seem to overcome this struggle.

Yehuda- a supportive friend.

This is a conversation that took place between shmuel and Yehuda..

shmuel- “I keep falling I’m so depressed I can’t do this anymore”

Yehuda- “it’s never too late keep trying”

Shmuel- “but I tried everything nothing seems to work”

Yehuda- “wow that must be so hard”

A couple hours later…

Shmuel- “I think I can do this..”

Yehuda- “wow! So nice what will you do differently”?!

Shmuel- “I’m gonna get a stronger filter”

Yehuda- “but this is your 6th time doing that.”

Shmuel- “yea but maybe this time it’ll work”

Yehuda - “if someone gave you 1 million dollars if you stop watching porn for the next 365 days… is that all you would put in place to make sure you don’t fall?”

Shmuel- speechless.

Yehuda- that’s how you know if a plan has a good chance… that’s how you know when you tried…

Shmuel- hmm…

Yehuda- is suffering from porn with all the misery for years worth less then 1 million dollars?

Shmuel- no, way more then a million.. the pain is so way more intense…

Yehuda- if for a million dollars you’d do a lot more then the above plan…to take someone out of the deep ocean to happy free person shouldn’t we Forsure do the same?

Lesson is -

Guys, you know when you tried- if you were to get 1 million dollars if this plan succeeds for 365 days.. would the plan just be a better filter?

Or…….

would it be a clear concise plan that blocks every trigger, every possible thing that can lead to a fall, a plan with motivation. With willpower…

“Distancing and removing triggers is only bringing the door closer..Changing the insides and our nature is the key to get in.” 

“Human connection can help every sort of struggle” 

If anyone would like to reach me I’d love to help out! 
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Re: Boyfriend-girlfriend relationship 13 Jan 2022 07:31 #375865

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Thats a great outlook! love it
I'm sick of the Un-scientific approach of today's medical and social environment. 
we will never heal and become a better society unless we realize that all people are addicts. Any thing we do that we aren't interested in is "addiction" and medicine doesn't fix addictions. 

Pain causes addiction and medicine cant fix pain. 

Unless we heal our pain, and become truama conscious so as not to cause others pain, we will never be living in a functioning human society.

Re: Boyfriend-girlfriend relationship 19 Mar 2023 04:50 #393508

Hey fellow yeshivish bachor, 
I can’t believe it I never thought I would meet someone in the same exact position as me, like mammash I have the same problem. I met a girl 2 years a girl over the phone and only spoke for 5 min and that was enough to trigger a serious relationship. We both love each other Immensely  we can’t stop talking to each other. Tried not to go out but failed, and was nichsahl very badly in shomer negiah. We took a break for while and yet again came back and this Repeated itself many times. The only thing I have to tell you is just wait for the right time till than work on your connection  with hakodosh Baruch hu 

Re: Boyfriend-girlfriend relationship 19 Mar 2023 04:52 #393509

It’s crazy I have mammash the exact problem as you 

Re: Boyfriend-girlfriend relationship 19 Mar 2023 05:10 #393510

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future gadol wrote on 19 Mar 2023 04:50:
Hey fellow yeshivish bachor, 
I can’t believe it I never thought I would meet someone in the same exact position as me, like mammash I have the same problem. I met a girl 2 years a girl over the phone and only spoke for 5 min and that was enough to trigger a serious relationship. We both love each other Immensely  we can’t stop talking to each other. Tried not to go out but failed, and was nichsahl very badly in shomer negiah. We took a break for while and yet again came back and this Repeated itself many times. The only thing I have to tell you is just wait for the right time till than work on your connection  with hakodosh Baruch hu 

Hey sorry to hear your rough times, just wondering which user your speaking to? Because the last reply was over a year. 
Maybe make your own thread and people can comment directly to you, although you may write here since you got inspired or so, the user may be inactive. Hatzlacha
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KEEP UP YOUR TREMENDOUS UPLIFTING IN THE AVODAH OF EMES!!

Thanks for reading! Stay shtark, I am also being challenged, just build your confidence, never quit no matter what, you are your strongest enemy and yet you are your strongest savior so you choose, I am not saying it's easy but am saying it's possible just takes effort and work!!
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Re: Boyfriend-girlfriend relationship 19 Mar 2023 17:05 #393529

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Emes-a-Yid wrote on 19 Mar 2023 05:10:

future gadol wrote on 19 Mar 2023 04:50:
Hey fellow yeshivish bachor, 
I can’t believe it I never thought I would meet someone in the same exact position as me, like mammash I have the same problem. I met a girl 2 years a girl over the phone and only spoke for 5 min and that was enough to trigger a serious relationship. We both love each other Immensely  we can’t stop talking to each other. Tried not to go out but failed, and was nichsahl very badly in shomer negiah. We took a break for while and yet again came back and this Repeated itself many times. The only thing I have to tell you is just wait for the right time till than work on your connection  with hakodosh Baruch hu 

Hey sorry to hear your rough times, just wondering which user your speaking to? Because the last reply was over a year. 
Maybe make your own thread and people can comment directly to you, although you may write here since you got inspired or so, the user may be inactive. Hatzlacha

I believe he stopped in recently. But we miss him anyways.
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Re: Boyfriend-girlfriend relationship 20 Mar 2023 04:01 #393560

Reb SAM!

I just finished reading your entire post from beginning till here. What’s up?!? Where is life up to?

I want hear…

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Re: Boyfriend-girlfriend relationship 20 Mar 2023 22:01 #393594

Hey all! 
Thx for the kind words
life has gotten so busy so it’s been hard to make my way here. Bh I’m doing well. Still going strong with my relationship! Things got complicated and families weren’t happy with the shidduch so we’re still working on getting married.
shomer negiah has been super tough but we’ve gotten back up strong in November time and pulled through till now despite the immense pain! 
@at future gadol - it sounds like your going through something similar! Stay strong and feel free to reach out I have some tips! All the best remember at the end we’ll be proud we pulled through! 
“Distancing and removing triggers is only bringing the door closer..Changing the insides and our nature is the key to get in.” 

“Human connection can help every sort of struggle” 

If anyone would like to reach me I’d love to help out! 
anonymouslyhappy111@gmail.com

Break free the easy way using the self-talk method!
https://guardyoureyes.com/forum/4-On-the-Way-to-90-Days/378128-Captain--Shtarkemotionals-Secret90Day-Challenge

Check out this thread with packed Insight for every person at every stage! 
https://guardyoureyes.com/forum/1-Break-Free/376994-%E2%80%9CShtark%E2%80%9D-insight-that-may-make-you-%E2%80%9Cemotional%E2%80%9D-%29

Re: Boyfriend-girlfriend relationship 21 Mar 2023 01:42 #393607

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YeshivaGuy wrote on 02 Dec 2020 01:53:
Hey, welcome!

I’m gonna speak my mind abit, and please forgive me if I’m being too forward.

listen, I’m from a modern backround, I’ve had shaychus to girls...
I know it’s beyond hard to resist, especially the emotional aspect. And feeling like u got so much in common! Ah, yup I’ve been there...
But u should know the Emes, even if ur not yet holding by living with it.
The Emes is that in the long run life will be much better etc if you wait until your married/dating to engage in such a relationship (I’m not even discussing Halacha, I’m talking about Olam Hazeh).

Honestly, it’s not like I’m perfect myself, though I’ve become frummer, I’m still nichshal once in awhile and talk to a girl (though have been doing way better bh), so I’m not giving mussar, I’m just sharing my thoughts as a friend who understands...

The problem is you feel so emotionally attached/invested, and it would be so so so super insanely hard and painful to make up with her to wait/pause the relationship for the time being.
I understand buddy.
Theres different eitzos we can discuss bezras Hashem, if you’re interested...

I hope I’m not overstepping my bounds, especially since I don’t know you.

I had an encounter with a certain girl last year during an off Shabbos, Baruch HaShem we didn’t touch but it got close...
I really liked her, we were so similar etc and really “clicked.”
I wasn’t able to concentrate in Yeshiva for the next 3 months.
It killed me. I kept replaying the night over and over again in my mind thinking “if only.”

This stuff kills ones learning man.
Kills ones focus,concentration,davening etc.

Theres only one eitza.
An eitza that has caused much pain in the immediate aftermath, but much joy and serenity in hindsight.
Go cold turkey. Break it off for now.
Im speaking from personal experience.
Its super duper hard and we can shmuze about how to do it, but it’s kdie.
It’s the only mahalach man.
No other eitza.

You have a wonderful bright future ahead of you. 
Invest now in your learning 100%.
The Torah/other things can fill up the emotional void for the time being. 
Obviously there comes a time where one needs to get married, but as a buchar it’s toxic to one’s spiritual growth.
Its not worth it.

Don’t get me wrong, it could be she’s your bashert and will one day marry her!
But right now your Avoda is to invest in your Self. Your learning, davening etc,
So that when you find your bashert, whoever she may be, you will come into that marriage better prepared to build a Bayis Neeman B’Yisrael of Kedusha v’Tahara.

We’re here for you, one step at a time.

Feel free to respond/not respond at your own discretion.

YeshivaGuy

What a beautiful post!! wow mamesh!!!

Re: Boyfriend-girlfriend relationship 21 Mar 2023 03:40 #393612

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%100 agree. Couldn’t have said it better. I Couldn’t concentrate on my learning for months while dating the woman I married. I can just imagine what it’s like getting involved with more girls…

Re: Boyfriend-girlfriend relationship 21 Mar 2023 03:56 #393613

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Shtarkandemotional wrote on 22 Dec 2020 02:26:
Taking to myself and telling myself... think about this as tiny small breaks to gain productivity!!! No one is going ANYWHERE!!!! Who am I fooling she lives nearby my house!! This won’t last straight 2 years!!! We’re just doing as much as we could slowly to gain Torah to gain spiritually! To gain time and productivity!!! We’re still both very connected at heart!!!

I'm actually curious... this conversation took place Dec 22, 2020... it's been 3 years... whatever happened with this story?? did they end up getting married??

Re: Boyfriend-girlfriend relationship 21 Mar 2023 04:02 #393615

Shtarkandemotional wrote on 20 Mar 2023 22:01:
Hey all! 
Thx for the kind words
life has gotten so busy so it’s been hard to make my way here. Bh I’m doing well. Still going strong with my relationship! Things got complicated and families weren’t happy with the shidduch so we’re still working on getting married.
shomer negiah has been super tough but we’ve gotten back up strong in November time and pulled through till now despite the immense pain! 
@at future gadol - it sounds like your going through something similar! Stay strong and feel free to reach out I have some tips! All the best remember at the end we’ll be proud we pulled through! 

@1084

I am also curious, he replied before the above.

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