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Re: Make it to Yeshiva 13 Oct 2020 09:42 #356071

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Re: Make it to Yeshiva 13 Oct 2020 14:51 #356076

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Or try learning Perek Chelek. I was really struggling with my learning for a few days and I realized I just needed to take it easier for a short time. I starting learning this perek (it's the last perek in sanhedrin) and it's very interesting. All about times of moshiach and other agadta.
Also masechta sotah is a great masechta to learn during bein hazmanim. It's about 80% agadta. Many of the famous ones and many of the not famous ones.
In the place where ba’alei teshuva stand, even pure tzaddikim who never sinned cannot stand. (Rabbi Avohu, Brachos 34b)

Great free resources:
My favorite book for breaking free: The Battle of the Generation 
https://guardyoureyes.com/ebooks/item/the-battle-of-the-generation. Change your attitude and change your life!

Rabbi Shafier's incredible lectures on breaking free: The Fight. Download here: 
https://theshmuz.com/series/the-fight/

If you're only ready to try something small, check out an easier way to do self-talk here:
https://guardyoureyes.com/forum/4-On-the-Way-to-90-Days/378128-Captain—Shtarkemotionals-Secret90Day-Challenge

Re: Make it to Yeshiva 13 Oct 2020 15:42 #356081

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Chelek is easy?? Geshmak, yes. I did it with an Artscroll. 
I highly recommend learning Maseches Tamid, I did it during summer Bein Hazmanim and it’s tremendous. All this info about the beis hamikdosh and the avoda. Maseches Middos is also a good idea. 
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Re: Make it to Yeshiva 13 Oct 2020 16:19 #356082

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Well I was learning Eruvin before lol. So it's much easier. Haha.

But it does move pretty fast, though for some of the psukim it helps to have an english translation. Sefaria is good enough for this. And if I don't understand everything, that's okay.
In the place where ba’alei teshuva stand, even pure tzaddikim who never sinned cannot stand. (Rabbi Avohu, Brachos 34b)

Great free resources:
My favorite book for breaking free: The Battle of the Generation 
https://guardyoureyes.com/ebooks/item/the-battle-of-the-generation. Change your attitude and change your life!

Rabbi Shafier's incredible lectures on breaking free: The Fight. Download here: 
https://theshmuz.com/series/the-fight/

If you're only ready to try something small, check out an easier way to do self-talk here:
https://guardyoureyes.com/forum/4-On-the-Way-to-90-Days/378128-Captain—Shtarkemotionals-Secret90Day-Challenge

Re: Make it to Yeshiva 13 Oct 2020 18:38 #356091

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Forget about “Make it to yeshiva “ looks like Yeshiva made it to you ..

Re: Make it to Yeshiva 13 Oct 2020 20:34 #356106

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YeshivaGuy wrote on 13 Oct 2020 01:28:

wilnevergiveup wrote on 12 Oct 2020 05:27:
What are you planning on keeping yourself busy with until Yeshiva starts?

This is the question.
Im gonna make Esrog vodka, but that doesn’t take so long.
Thinkin of other stuff.
The thing is that I need something meaningful.
I can’t be סובל pointless distractions. It just gets me depressed.
Thats my struggle with the concept of “keeping myself busy”
I need a meaningful outlet.
All suggestions are welcome and appreciated

Why don't you make a batch of beer?
It takes at least a whole day plus time for research.
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Re: Make it to Yeshiva 13 Oct 2020 21:28 #356112

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wilnevergiveup wrote on 13 Oct 2020 20:34:

YeshivaGuy wrote on 13 Oct 2020 01:28:

wilnevergiveup wrote on 12 Oct 2020 05:27:
What are you planning on keeping yourself busy with until Yeshiva starts?

This is the question.
Im gonna make Esrog vodka, but that doesn’t take so long.
Thinkin of other stuff.
The thing is that I need something meaningful.
I can’t be סובל pointless distractions. It just gets me depressed.
Thats my struggle with the concept of “keeping myself busy”
I need a meaningful outlet.
All suggestions are welcome and appreciated

Why don't you make a batch of beer?
It takes at least a whole day plus time for research.

He had enough Corona. 
Any other ideas?
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Re: Make it to Yeshiva 13 Oct 2020 22:43 #356122

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Markz wrote on 13 Oct 2020 21:28:

wilnevergiveup wrote on 13 Oct 2020 20:34:

YeshivaGuy wrote on 13 Oct 2020 01:28:

wilnevergiveup wrote on 12 Oct 2020 05:27:
What are you planning on keeping yourself busy with until Yeshiva starts?

This is the question.
Im gonna make Esrog vodka, but that doesn’t take so long.
Thinkin of other stuff.
The thing is that I need something meaningful.
I can’t be סובל pointless distractions. It just gets me depressed.
Thats my struggle with the concept of “keeping myself busy”
I need a meaningful outlet.
All suggestions are welcome and appreciated

Why don't you make a batch of beer?
It takes at least a whole day plus time for research.

He had enough Corona. 
Any other ideas?

I think it's "beer"-ly an issue, and its a fine idea, make a different kind and the "Coor" problem is resolved, and Yeshiva guy proved he's not a S(t)am Adam(s), and there's only one way to sum up his October...Fest! He has a "stella"r record!

                                    Grant

Re: Make it to Yeshiva 14 Oct 2020 02:23 #356136

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Grant400 wrote on 13 Oct 2020 22:43:

Markz wrote on 13 Oct 2020 21:28:

wilnevergiveup wrote on 13 Oct 2020 20:34:

YeshivaGuy wrote on 13 Oct 2020 01:28:

wilnevergiveup wrote on 12 Oct 2020 05:27:
What are you planning on keeping yourself busy with until Yeshiva starts?

This is the question.
Im gonna make Esrog vodka, but that doesn’t take so long.
Thinkin of other stuff.
The thing is that I need something meaningful.
I can’t be סובל pointless distractions. It just gets me depressed.
Thats my struggle with the concept of “keeping myself busy”
I need a meaningful outlet.
All suggestions are welcome and appreciated

Why don't you make a batch of beer?
It takes at least a whole day plus time for research.

He had enough Corona. 
Any other ideas?

I think it's "beer"-ly an issue, and its a fine idea, make a different kind and the "Coor" problem is resolved, and Yeshiva guy proved he's not a S(t)am Adam(s), and there's only one way to sum up his October...Fest! He has a "stella"r record!

                                    Grant

Great one, Bud! You ”lite” our way and make us “weiser”.
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Re: Make it to Yeshiva 14 Oct 2020 03:38 #356142

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i-man wrote on 13 Oct 2020 18:38:
Forget about “Make it to yeshiva “ looks like Yeshiva made it to you ..

Yup! Baruch HaShem.

That is surely our life long avoda. My lifelong goal.
That Yeshiva should make its way into us.
Thats pshat in my name YeshivaGuy.
Because I’m working on these inyanim and other aspects of my Avodas HaShem to truly attain the status on a בן ישיבה a בן תורה.
May we be zoche
Last Edit: 14 Oct 2020 03:51 by yeshivaguy.

Re: Make it to Yeshiva 14 Oct 2020 03:41 #356144

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Thank you all for your outpouring of ideas and advice.
Ill take a look at the beer idea and possibly look into the other learning options.
I did some minchas chinuch, which was geshmak and different...

Re: Make it to Yeshiva 14 Oct 2020 03:48 #356145

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So I got taiva tonight to masterbate tonight.
b’ezras Hashem I’ll win.
37 days clean and not stopping now.

All of your support truly means so so much to me and keeps me going.
Thank You!

We’ll be in touch this evening if any struggles arise. 
Shkoyach

Re: Make it to Yeshiva 14 Oct 2020 04:48 #356150

wilnevergiveup wrote on 13 Oct 2020 08:33:

YeshivaGuy wrote on 13 Oct 2020 01:16:
Pretty stressed.
Felt empty today. I feel like I just wasted time.
So hard to not be in a Makom Aliya.
The Yetzer wants to build off this and make me masterbate, go online etc, after all, I had such an empty and pointless day with barely any learning, and everyone around me is just so stressed out- driving me nuts.
I’m not giving in, but it still feels superhuman,
feels like I’m fighting absolutely everything-defying nature.
Which is so difficult.
Feels like I’m restraining a lion on a leash.

Anyway folks, thnx for hearing me out.

Hatzlocha!

I want to address this point as it is something that I struggle with as well.

I want you to really ask yourself "did I really have a bad day?" 

If you answer yes then ask yourself why, give yourself the whole shebang and then write it down (I write it on a google docs sheet) and FORGET ABOUT IT. You don't have to worry, if you ever want to remember, that's why you wrote it down, so just forget about it.

Now ask yourself, amid your awful day was there anything that you did do well? There is always something, did you wake up on time, did you daven, if you woke up late and still davened that an accomplishment too. were you kind, did you help someone out, did you make someone feel good. I can go on and on I am sure the list is quite long. 
Focus on all the good that you do and try to build on them.

Aaaah, so why do we feel like losers?

This is the million dollar question and the answer is, well I don't really know the answer for every situation but I will suggest an answer that you may relate to.

When we make goals for ourselves, we tend to set goals based on what we feel the most guilty about, instead of what we will actually grow from.
This creates expectations for yourself and when these expectations are not met we feel like a failure.

We have to learn what to expect from ourselves and what not to but especially we need to learn to set the correct goals.

For example, two days before Succos I spent most of the day working on the succah and helping my wife in the kitchen with little time to learn or do some of the other things that I had planned.

I felt awful, I had planned on having a four hour first seder, learn my mussar, do my workout and finish a project that I was working on and I didn't get to any of those.
My whole day was a mess, I was stressed that I didn't get to all those things and I was stressed about having to take care of the things that I had to take care of because they were preventing me from reaching my goals. 

After the day was over I sat down and said to myself wow what a bad day, if the rest of bein hazemanim goes like this, I'm done for.

Then I realized that I can still change my goals retroactively. I said, listen here, today your goals are to daven before the zman, learn twenty minutes, finish building the succah, help my wife when she needs me and read Dr. Seuss books to my 2 year old so that my wife can work. 

Wow! What an accomplishing day, and I even accomplished my goals!

I had Covid19 over Yom Kippur (and I am not the only one) and was stuck at home. My Rav told me, "you know Hashem doesn't want you to serve him on your terms, he want's you to serve him on his terms. Hashem want's you to show him that you can have a great Yom Kippur at home too."

Life is like a ladder, one rung at a time. If you stay on the same rung the entire time, you will fail to understand the point of the ladder and eventually just climb down, but if you try to take a giant leap and hopefully you will catch on somewhere on top you will end up in the same place and with far more pain too.
Reaching too high isn't growth, it's suicide. Of course you want to climb the tallest ladder, but you still got to climb it one ring at a time.

I decided that I was going to daven at a certain minyan during the last week of bein hazemanim that I thought was reasonable for me but in the end I never made it there. Today I thought, I have two options, either I could continue to push and maybe I will feel like a loser or maybe I will win, or I could daven in a different minyan that there is nothing wrong with other than the fact that it wasn't in the plan. 
Today I davened with a minyan and yesterday I davened at home, which one was better?

People spend all their lives feeling unaccomplished, not because they don't accomplish, rather because they don't live up to their own expectations.

Thanks for sharing this well-articulated thought! I can definitely relate and this outlook has generally has been my motto. I actually have this discussion about gradual vs. rapid change with my father pretty often. I usually come down on the side of gradual change. However, there are times I think for more rapid change. I think this usually can only happen when we have a strong and intrinsic motivation to make that specific change. So not when it's simply based on guilt or our expectations for ourselves. For example, if someone really believes that he will have more hatzlacha in shidduchim for example if he learns shiur x, and having hatzlacha is important to him, he may indeed find that he will be able to make the more rapid change, though it, of course, won't be easy. Hope that made sense  
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Re: Make it to Yeshiva 14 Oct 2020 05:20 #356155

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Gevura Shebyesod wrote on 14 Oct 2020 02:23:

Grant400 wrote on 13 Oct 2020 22:43:

Markz wrote on 13 Oct 2020 21:28:

wilnevergiveup wrote on 13 Oct 2020 20:34:

YeshivaGuy wrote on 13 Oct 2020 01:28:

wilnevergiveup wrote on 12 Oct 2020 05:27:
What are you planning on keeping yourself busy with until Yeshiva starts?

This is the question.
Im gonna make Esrog vodka, but that doesn’t take so long.
Thinkin of other stuff.
The thing is that I need something meaningful.
I can’t be סובל pointless distractions. It just gets me depressed.
Thats my struggle with the concept of “keeping myself busy”
I need a meaningful outlet.
All suggestions are welcome and appreciated

Why don't you make a batch of beer?
It takes at least a whole day plus time for research.

He had enough Corona. 
Any other ideas?

I think it's "beer"-ly an issue, and its a fine idea, make a different kind and the "Coor" problem is resolved, and Yeshiva guy proved he's not a S(t)am Adam(s), and there's only one way to sum up his October...Fest! He has a "stella"r record!

                                    Grant

Great one, Bud! You ”lite” our way and make us “weiser”.

Oh my goodness, if only I would have known what that would cause...

Don't you guys know that puns are assur .
Check out My Thread and The Truth

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Last Edit: 14 Oct 2020 09:48 by wilnevergiveup.

Re: Make it to Yeshiva 14 Oct 2020 10:08 #356169

wilnevergiveup wrote on 14 Oct 2020 05:20:

Gevura Shebyesod wrote on 14 Oct 2020 02:23:

Grant400 wrote on 13 Oct 2020 22:43:

Markz wrote on 13 Oct 2020 21:28:

wilnevergiveup wrote on 13 Oct 2020 20:34:

YeshivaGuy wrote on 13 Oct 2020 01:28:

wilnevergiveup wrote on 12 Oct 2020 05:27:
What are you planning on keeping yourself busy with until Yeshiva starts?

This is the question.
Im gonna make Esrog vodka, but that doesn’t take so long.
Thinkin of other stuff.
The thing is that I need something meaningful.
I can’t be סובל pointless distractions. It just gets me depressed.
Thats my struggle with the concept of “keeping myself busy”
I need a meaningful outlet.
All suggestions are welcome and appreciated

Why don't you make a batch of beer?
It takes at least a whole day plus time for research.

He had enough Corona. 
Any other ideas?

I think it's "beer"-ly an issue, and its a fine idea, make a different kind and the "Coor" problem is resolved, and Yeshiva guy proved he's not a S(t)am Adam(s), and there's only one way to sum up his October...Fest! He has a "stella"r record!

                                    Grant

Great one, Bud! You ”lite” our way and make us “weiser”.

Oh my goodness, if only I would have known what that would cause...

Don't you guys know that puns are assur .

It's hard to explain puns to kleptomaniacs because they always take things literally
Did you hear about the guy whose whole left side was cut off? He’s all right now.
My book fell on my head. I only have my-shelf to blame.

@Yeshivaguy, sorry for hijacking your thread, but he totally asked for it...

On a more serious note, really glad to see you're learning and keeping busy. Keep it up!

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We all make choices in life, but in the end, our choices make us.
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