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Re: Make it to Yeshiva 18 Jan 2023 00:50 #390968

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Thanks for your clear response. To clarify, I did not mean that I agree, I mean he can be so caught up in the throes of the sugya that he does not have the clarity to answer without his negiyus. The pressure maybe clouds the rational, therefore he is instructing to care about shiduchim trumping other calculations.

Not that Daas Torah considers or doesn't consider what other ppl will think. But a Ruv not under unimaginable pressure can give guidance better IMHO.

I am only saying this to be Dan lekaf zechus, that we can not fathom the pressure he may be under. We would hope that the gedolim we go to are healthy and on such a high level that they are above being swayed by emotional, personal issues...
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Re: Make it to Yeshiva 29 Jan 2023 02:54 #391342

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It was my one year anniversary, ו׳ שבט, from when I broke down crying last year in a Bais medrash while reading first mishna of brachos after having left Yeshiva and not learnt/davened in many months.

You can check my posts from that time.

Oceans of depth and infinite raging volcanoes of emotion below the following words.

I do apologize for the length.

1. Made big fundamental strides in my growth- consulting a special mentor of mine in an area of the country I am not usually in.

2. Then shiksa I met on app a while back living 20min from me who wanted to meet etc messages me late thurs night (though we’d broken off and I deleted number etc).

3. I engage in convo and we decide to “give our relationship another chance.” When I return Monday from my trip.

4. Over Shabbos I battle back and forth between fantasizing about her and choosing life as a Jew.

5. Without divulging too much info here, I appreciated the beauty and depth of Jewish women over shabbos and after conversations with many, discussing what it is I seek, receiving significant and exciting shiduch ideas.

6. After turning on my phone tonight, seeing messages and going back and forth, I said “f*** it” and blocked shiksas number.

7. Feeling amazing, I go to melava malka where aunt/uncle continue hyping up this girl they met and spoke to.

Caveat being, they later tell me, is she doesn’t want someone with mental health problems.

I don’t need everyone to wanna marry me, obviously.

Was just that they hyped her up a lot and said would point her out at melava malka and the excitement majorly fueled the blocking of the number.

8. Obviously there’s more to discuss and look into.

The main mindset shift I’ve experienced in the last 3 hours though is going from “I need a girl pronto- so shiksa,” to “I can ditch shiksa cuz I have a Jew girl here who’s interested in me,” to “I’m an independent person with self worth and don’t need anyone pronto. I will not chase that shiksa nor will I expect any shidduch to be my “quick fix.”’

More to come.

Until then however.

Edit

“Watch me as I drain the sea, and show you what it is thats Me.”

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Last Edit: 29 Jan 2023 05:54 by yeshivaguy.

Re: Make it to Yeshiva 29 Jan 2023 03:04 #391343

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Wow.

So much inner strength.

So much commitment to things that transcend temporal passions.

"Moods come and go, but greatness endures"

I have a lot to learn from you.

Keep on trucking!

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Re: Make it to Yeshiva 29 Jan 2023 04:19 #391346

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YeshivaGuy wrote on 29 Jan 2023 02:54:

If the length of this post scares you, please, at least read #8.


It was my one year anniversary, ו׳ שבט, from when I broke down crying last year in a Bais medrash while reading first mishna of brachos after having left Yeshiva and not learnt/davened in many months.

You can check my posts from that time.

Oceans of depth and infinite raging volcanoes of emotion below the following words.

I do apologize for the length.

1. Made big fundamental strides in my growth- consulting a special mentor of mine in an area of the country I am not usually in.

2. Then shiksa I met on app a while back living 20min from me who wanted to meet etc messages me late thurs night (though we’d broken off and I deleted number etc).

3. I engage in convo and we decide to “give our relationship another chance.” When I return Monday from my trip.

4. Over Shabbos I battle back and forth between fantasizing about her and choosing life as a Jew.

5. Without divulging too much info here, I appreciated the beauty and depth of Jewish women over shabbos and after conversations with many, discussing what it is I seek, receiving significant and exciting shiduch ideas.

6. After turning on my phone tonight, seeing messages and going back and forth, I said “f*** it” and blocked shiksas number.

7. Feeling amazing, I go to melava malka where aunt/uncle continue hyping up this girl they met and spoke to.

Caveat being, they later tell me, is she doesn’t want someone with mental health problems.

I don’t need everyone to wanna marry me, obviously.

Was just that they hyped her up a lot and said would point her out at melava malka and the excitement majorly fueled the blocking of the number.

8. Obviously there’s more to discuss and look into.

The main mindset shift I’ve experienced in the last 3 hours though is going from “I need a girl pronto- so shiksa,” to “I can ditch shiksa cuz I have a Jew girl here who’s interested in me,” to “I’m an independent person with self worth and don’t need anyone pronto. I will not chase that shiksa nor will I expect any shidduch to be my “quick fix.”’

More to come.

Until then however.

I swear that if I will contact that shiksa and engage in conversation then I will pay $1,000 to Tzedaka.

No exceptions nor room for leeway when coming to such sakanas nefashos mamash mamash.

The severity of this situation is beyond my own comprehension.

I implore you all to hold me to this.

“Watch me as I drain the sea, and show you what it is thats Me.”

YeshivaGuy


Firstly - you’re a great man for sharing all that.

Secondly - That was not a long post. 

Third and most important - No I will not hold you to it!

I have already been ordained on gye, hence as a Chacham I hereby consider your Vow null and void. 

There are various loopholes to find a heter. Here’s one “If you would have known that she would contact you first, would you have committed to it??”

Kidding aside - if you want to make a more practical commitment, without a shavua say this;
“If I contact this non-Jewish woman, I will right away speak to another gye friend. I will speak to a gye friend right away regardless. If I don’t call a friend to chat in the next 24hr, I will donate $100 to Rabbi Karl Marx”

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Re: Make it to Yeshiva 29 Jan 2023 05:48 #391350

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Markz wrote on 29 Jan 2023 04:19:

YeshivaGuy wrote on 29 Jan 2023 02:54:

If the length of this post scares you, please, at least read #8.


It was my one year anniversary, ו׳ שבט, from when I broke down crying last year in a Bais medrash while reading first mishna of brachos after having left Yeshiva and not learnt/davened in many months.

You can check my posts from that time.

Oceans of depth and infinite raging volcanoes of emotion below the following words.

I do apologize for the length.

1. Made big fundamental strides in my growth- consulting a special mentor of mine in an area of the country I am not usually in.

2. Then shiksa I met on app a while back living 20min from me who wanted to meet etc messages me late thurs night (though we’d broken off and I deleted number etc).

3. I engage in convo and we decide to “give our relationship another chance.” When I return Monday from my trip.

4. Over Shabbos I battle back and forth between fantasizing about her and choosing life as a Jew.

5. Without divulging too much info here, I appreciated the beauty and depth of Jewish women over shabbos and after conversations with many, discussing what it is I seek, receiving significant and exciting shiduch ideas.

6. After turning on my phone tonight, seeing messages and going back and forth, I said “f*** it” and blocked shiksas number.

7. Feeling amazing, I go to melava malka where aunt/uncle continue hyping up this girl they met and spoke to.

Caveat being, they later tell me, is she doesn’t want someone with mental health problems.

I don’t need everyone to wanna marry me, obviously.

Was just that they hyped her up a lot and said would point her out at melava malka and the excitement majorly fueled the blocking of the number.

8. Obviously there’s more to discuss and look into.

The main mindset shift I’ve experienced in the last 3 hours though is going from “I need a girl pronto- so shiksa,” to “I can ditch shiksa cuz I have a Jew girl here who’s interested in me,” to “I’m an independent person with self worth and don’t need anyone pronto. I will not chase that shiksa nor will I expect any shidduch to be my “quick fix.”’

More to come.

Until then however.

I swear that if I will contact that shiksa and engage in conversation then I will pay $1,000 to Tzedaka.

No exceptions nor room for leeway when coming to such sakanas nefashos mamash mamash.

The severity of this situation is beyond my own comprehension.

I implore you all to hold me to this.

“Watch me as I drain the sea, and show you what it is thats Me.”

YeshivaGuy


Firstly - you’re a great man for sharing all that.

Secondly - That was not a long post. 

Third and most important - No I will not hold you to it!

I have already been ordained on gye, hence as a Chacham I hereby consider your Vow null and void. 

There are various loopholes to find a heter. Here’s one “If you would have known that she would contact you first, would you have committed to it??”

Kidding aside - if you want to make a more practical commitment, without a shavua say this;
“If I contact this non-Jewish woman, I will right away speak to another gye friend. I will speak to a gye friend right away regardless. If I don’t call a friend to chat in the next 24hr, I will donate $100 to Rabbi Karl Marx”

Know that if you follow this amended vow, it cannot be nullified by any other Rabbi regardless of affiliation or lack of.

Ok thank you I appreciate it. Will update post 

Re: Make it to Yeshiva 29 Jan 2023 06:18 #391351

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My friend, I see the pain and the strength, the broken heart and the steely resolve, and all of us are with you. We are inspired by a person facing unfathomable challenges and standing strong. Hold strong, and keep us posted my friend
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Re: Make it to Yeshiva 29 Jan 2023 14:03 #391359

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Re: Make it to Yeshiva 30 Jan 2023 03:46 #391391

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Hey YG (You’re Great). I’m waiting for your next call / text / post!!!
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Re: Make it to Yeshiva 30 Jan 2023 18:53 #391406

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Markz wrote on 30 Jan 2023 03:46:
Hey YG (You’re Great). I’m waiting for your next call / text / post!!!

So am I

Re: Make it to Yeshiva 31 Jan 2023 04:12 #391417

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YeshivaGuy wrote on 30 Jan 2023 18:53:

Markz wrote on 30 Jan 2023 03:46:
Hey YG (You’re Great). I’m waiting for your next call / text / post!!!

So am I

You’re greater than me in wisdom, warriorship  & wealth - so you should go first!
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Re: Make it to Yeshiva 31 Jan 2023 04:27 #391419

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Markz wrote on 31 Jan 2023 04:12:

YeshivaGuy wrote on 30 Jan 2023 18:53:

Markz wrote on 30 Jan 2023 03:46:
Hey YG (You’re Great). I’m waiting for your next call / text / post!!!

So am I

You’re greater than me in wisdom, warriorship  & wealth - so you should go first!

Not sure where I’m going and even if I go,
במה אדע כי אירשנה?
Last Edit: 31 Jan 2023 04:29 by yeshivaguy. Reason: I don’t need a reason cuz I’m human!

Re: Make it to Yeshiva 31 Jan 2023 04:49 #391423

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Re: Make it to Yeshiva 08 Feb 2023 00:35 #391747

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Markz wrote on 31 Jan 2023 04:49:

Been good bh, but will adopt now your nusach:

I, YeshivaGuy, swear, that if I contact/engage in conversation with at all, with this non-Jewish woman, I will right away speak to another gye friend. I will speak to a gye friend right away regardless. If I don’t call a friend to chat about it in the next 36 hours, I will donate $100 to IMG (thought I’d bring him back a shtikl).”

Re: Make it to Yeshiva 08 Feb 2023 02:36 #391755

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YeshivaGuy wrote on 08 Feb 2023 00:35:

Markz wrote on 31 Jan 2023 04:49:

Been good bh, but will adopt now your nusach:

I, YeshivaGuy, swear, that if I contact/engage in conversation with at all, with this non-Jewish woman, I will right away speak to another gye friend. I will speak to a gye friend right away regardless. If I don’t call a friend to chat about it in the next 36 hours, I will donate $100 to IMG (thought I’d bring him back a shtikl).”

Why is there something wrong with talking to a non Jewish woman (such as my therapist)?

Tractate Nedarim is over bro. 
No more swearing allowed. 

Chat with me (serious!) or any other brother here.
Don’t wait till you hit danger zone. 
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Re: Make it to Yeshiva 08 Feb 2023 03:07 #391756

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