I am soooo happy for you! You sound like you are in a really good place.

How is SMART different then the GYE Forums? 

Thanks.

SMART is like a 12 step meeting just different in philosophy and approach. There's real people with real names with real honesty, real recovery and real friendship, which can't be compared in any way to a forum, like one can't compare reading a book vs being part of the story etc.

Hi
I am new to gye. I am also a bochur struggling with porn and mastubation.
Just signing up has given me chizuk already!  
Hope to start the 90 day challenge soon together with Taphsic!

Egg and Onion wrote on 11 Aug 2019 16:22:

Hi, and welcome aboard,
You came to the right place, all of us around here are in the same boat one way or another. Stick around, post, chat and keep us updated with your progress, so that you can be inspired and inspire others too.
Hatzlucha on your journey!!

Shnitzel and kugel wrote on 09 Aug 2019 21:24:

I just want to understand - so its basically like a live 12 step meeting - which is also with real people, real problems, real recovery and real friendship and real solutions?

Not sure whether you're trying to make fun or not, as long as it makes you feel good.. 

I personally won't leave gye because of someone trying to poke fun but some newcomers do get put off by some stupid comments which come from people who think they are funny but really aren't... If they can take responsibility for someone giving up on gye then feel free to keep the smart comments coming...

I don't think he was trying to make fun of you.  The way I'm reading it, he was trying to understand the different between the 2 programs. 

Hi Shnitz.
sounds like you're a little insulted. I don't know the writer, but I agree with Dave.
Many people are probably confused between the many different kinds of recovery programs.  Live meetings are definitely more intense than an anonymous forum. That's a clear difference to be pointed out.   
As far as the types of live meetings, there are some who practice the 12 steps of Alcoholic Anonymous such as SA and PA, and there are others who don't such as SMART.
  Personally I only have experience with one of those groups, but I would assume that all of them would offer the benefits of real people. etc... (assuming that there are enough people in your area to make an active meeting).
As far as the program of the meeting itself, there are many colors in the rainbow, let's let each person try and find what will work (and stay worked) for them.
sg

Hmmm....and here I was wondering if he thought the eggs and onion guy was making fun of him....

I am still behind you 100%!!!

Realestatemogul wrote on 13 Aug 2019 05:07:

Could be that I'm just hungry, but I can't help thinking that shnitzel and kugel go Fri night, eggs and onions are for shabbos day, and, um, I guess the real estate mogul comes for shaloshidis. (Gotta work on the third one, I know)

stillgoing wrote on 13 Aug 2019 13:38:



Eggsalent !

Shnitzel and kugel wrote on 12 Aug 2019 11:52:

Sorry if you thought i was making fun of you - absolutely no way. I go to 12 step meetings and i was wondering if this would help me better or if its to similar to the meetings i am going to now already.

Shnitzkugel:
Would you elaborate more on the nature of the SMART program? I could help by starting and then you can take over...

As it seems to me from the outside, one major point is that it's empowering rather than the dis-empowering powerlessness approach of the 12 steps. Another major one is that it doesn't label addiction as an incurable disease. Yet another one is that it focuses more on building your life, adding positive goals and working towards them. Now the mic is yours, take it please..

First two are spot on, we believe everyone has the power to stop on their own, obviously with group support but no need for higher powers, we're not powerless.

Also we don't label ourselves as addicts in our introductions, however when we discuss SMART tools we do call it addiction. 

12 steps is a more spiritual program, SMART is scientific which would work for atheists as well. 

I've only been to 3 sessions so far so my knowledge is limited, I didn't go last week because I'm not happy with that locations administrator, too much talking and wasting time, and not serious enough. 

Either I'll find a new location or perhaps do online meeting, also I can't be open about my sexual issues as no one else in that group has a sexual issue so it's not helpful enough as there's no real honest, vulnerability etc. 

On another note last night I had a fall, I reached around 70 days, longest in a year! Also quickest I've ever risen again, and I didn't watch porn like I always did once I fell by mastrubating, so we're definitely getting somewhere BH.

Shnitzel and kugel wrote on 19 Aug 2019 12:59:

Where?



Love ya
sg