Yesodi.....very well written.
Thank you

Yesodi wrote on 09 Mar 2016 00:38:





Thank you, @cordnoy, for understanding me.

BTW: maybe this is an appropriate place to raise my thoughts regarding the above stylistic issue.

Of course, it is perfectly understandable (and I guess also expected) that such a religious-based site, started and backed by Frum Jews, should take on such a "Frum" style and atmosphere.  I not really suggesting otherwise on a practical level!

But nevertheless, I'm kinda "thinking out loud" now: IMHO, in a certain sense, it is quite unfortunate that this site projects such an exclusively Frum and Yeshivish look-and-feel to it, which most certainly makes it appear "out-of-bounds" to the majority of Klal Yisrael, who have sadly not yet fully-joined us in committing to a full life of Torah and Mitzvot.

If we see that significant number of secular Bnei Noach have begun "seeing the light," then surely many, many, of our fellow brothers and sisters inside Am Yisrael -- even if they might still define themselves as secular (or "Conservative" or "Reform" or whatever) -- have similarly decided that they need to seek recovery from this curse! So, wouldn't it be nice if, somehow, at least part of GYE could appeal to them as well? And perhaps, via this initial, limited, contact with the world of Kdusha, they could start discovering opportunities to sanctifying other aspects of their personal lives as well.

What do you think?

They can if they want to. There is a member of GYE who is not jewish and he posts every day. There is also a very big mailah of having an identity and even exclusivity to an extent. GYE is very good at promoting comfort to those who want to seek it out. While I don't speak for GYE, I assume that the people who run GYE are frum jews who have most experience dealing with frum jews. GYE was started to address an issue that may be worldwide, but it was specifically for the frum community because of stigma and shame and whatnot.

I would add that there are plenty of less-committed Jews on this site too, it really doesn't matter we are all committed to work on our lust (and maybe we all ought to be committed too )

And there is also a Yiddish site that has a more Chassidish flavor to it, a Hebrew site for Israelis, as well as French and Spanish.

Yesodi,

IMHO in low level addiction to Porn and Mast like myself, if we take Gd out of the equation I'd never have looked to change my life, which is why there's more religious guys here than elsewhere

Acc to my little research the non jewish / irreligious world, Masturbation isn't condoned at all

A religious life with Hashem has granted me a better physical life, but I only came here bc of Hashem

Gevura Shebyesod wrote on 09 Mar 2016 03:26:

Yes, and that raises another question/comment that I had:
IMHO, it's unfortunate that all these sites are "totally separate."

I for example, have a separate login for this English site and for the Hebrew site. (So far, I've only been writing here, because I can type much faster in English, but I still like to read the stuff in Hebrew.) With the way things are now, I need to update my counter separately on both sites, which is a hassle.

Is there a technological limitation with the Kunena platform that caused this situation?

Yesodi wrote on 09 Mar 2016 06:23:

I agree with this sentiment.
Perhaps there is a reason though.

If i can bring the conversation back to this thread title for a moment, i'm a little confused. Whats recovery?

stillgoing wrote on 09 Mar 2016 16:01:

have you discovered the answer yet. And how do you vote today

No, Not yet. Nor do I remember what I meant when I wrote that post. Currently I don't know or care if I will recover, the importantly thing is that I get through today (gosh! I'm starting to sound like cords now).Things that have helped me have been, gye - mostly the forum, and the real live people it has introduced me to.

Perhaps you discovered the fragrance of recovery...

stillgoing wrote on 19 Jul 2016 17:44:

Is that a good thing or a bad thing? 

cordnoy wrote on 19 Jul 2016 18:35:

I'm ok with the way I sound now, but I'll admit, that when I first came to gye, I found all of the "I don't care - only today" thingy to be a little obsessive.

stillgoing wrote on 20 Jul 2016 00:59:

Me too, and to be honest I thought it was fine up to a point, but when taken too far becomes counter-productive.
Then one day one post hit me and it started to make sense. It's good to plan long term, but the only way to actually get anywhere is by focusing on today only.

realsimcha wrote on 09 Mar 2016 00:49:

Hey realsimcha, is heisa Litvish an option?