After spending my teenage years on the roller coaster, alternating good and bad days, I got married and thought "now I'm done" pas b'saloi...I was in for a surprise. I would call every number available for bad things, dreaming for days on end about going to a public internet center (being a learning guy studying 11-12 hours a day...would've been pretty humiliating to get caught) in the we needed internet for our phone line and i finally got my craving.My wife would go to work and i'll come home hav

Sorry. posting gfrom an old phone is not easy. Getting disconnected repeatedly, maximum of 512 charactersinput at a time. I'll have to get back some other time. but I'll b reading ur replies.

Interveltnik (I wouldn't call myself like that!! I would call myself maximum Gevain A'Interveltnik
I had the same problem and now I am trying to get myself out of it

Just keep on trucking and think about where can you improve and make sure to read the GYE handbook. By the way do you have a filter?

JJ

Feels so good not to b alone in the struggle! thanx! there a filter for an old phone? i dont have internet on a computer, where can i get the books?

About the name thats exactly what i feel of myself after staying up 4 hours at night browsing touching and mastur

Welcome hecherveltnik!

Did you read the handbooks?

inter...im in kollel now and ive always waited till my wife left house for any reason so i can go home and have a different type of "first" or "second" seder...now i put filter on and now theres no reason to miss seder...i mean wat else am i gana do besides learn

I see i'm not the only one. But a filter didn't help for me, either i managed to bypass it (prompting me to put new passwords, filters etc. which had my wife raising eyebrows each time...) or i would call bad #s on telephone listen to fm... Actually i put a password on the computer and that stopped me from the net, but now i have a phone with free internet and no possible way to install a filter. (its not a smartphone.)

What about getting a really old phone that can't access the internet at all?
I have one. What a mechayeh! Doesn't even have a camera. Can't even receive pictures.
(It's a Motorola flip style phone) You can probably get one used for "one cent plus shipping."

You're far from alone in the double life struggle.
Hit bottom while still on top.
This addiction doesn't go away by itself. And it will take more than a filter. Daven for sobriety.

Hatzlocha!
Alex

Welcome interveltnik, from another newbie here
Your struggles sound about the same as mine, and what I am getting stuck with now is setting goals with a serious plan, from the little bit of the handbook that I have so far read is laying things out well now I should get bsck to it so I can set a plan which I am procrastinating doing.
Good luck to us

Soh

Welcome to the forum,

Keep on posting!

Hatzlacha to you,

--Elyah

I was thinking about getting done with this phone altogether, but when the cravings come I'll try for anything it'll b on the telephone, radio, in the street etc. I need a source of chizuk in the fight And this site's been the best (and only) that helped me. I wouldn't want to give that up.

The problem isn't the phone, or the radio or any other triggers (though we've still got to do our best to avoid them).

The real problem is what's in our heads. We've got to start dealing with that.

Good luck,

Elyah

I would love getting through the handbooks. where can i get them in NY? I cant download them on my phone. I'm going to the asifa tonght, maybe we should give it out there? : o