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TOPIC: Shovavim: 42 days of opportunity 1976 Views
Shovavim: 42 days of opportunity 12 Jan 2020 20:35 #346658
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"If I am not for myself, who will be for me? But if I am only for myself, who am I? If not now, when?"
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Re: Shovavim: 42 days of opportunity 13 Jan 2020 19:48 #346676
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"If I am not for myself, who will be for me? But if I am only for myself, who am I? If not now, when?"
feel free to reach out @ ahavayirah@gmail.com |
Re: Shovavim: 42 days of opportunity 15 Jan 2020 14:42 #346726
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Re: Shovavim: 42 days of opportunity 15 Jan 2020 15:39 #346727
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"If I am not for myself, who will be for me? But if I am only for myself, who am I? If not now, when?"
feel free to reach out @ ahavayirah@gmail.com |
Re: Shovavim: 42 days of opportunity 03 Jan 2023 21:22 #390494
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"If I am not for myself, who will be for me? But if I am only for myself, who am I? If not now, when?"
feel free to reach out @ ahavayirah@gmail.com |
Re: Shovavim: 42 days of opportunity 08 Jan 2023 15:27 #390646
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"If I am not for myself, who will be for me? But if I am only for myself, who am I? If not now, when?"
feel free to reach out @ ahavayirah@gmail.com |
Re: Shovavim: 42 days of opportunity 08 Jan 2023 15:43 #390647
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DavidT wrote on 08 Jan 2023 15:27:
Hi I opened it up. It seems unreliable based off what he writes in the section on homosexuality (begins on page 53). How many people has this author helped in real life? I quote his concluding remarks on that topic. ”Altogether, we have found three reasons for homose*ual behavior. One cause is because a person doesn’t want to give pleasure and he only wants to take pleasure; therefore, he engages in a relationship in which only he enjoys and takes pleasure, and there is no one to receive his pleasure. (The solution for such homose*ual behavior is to become the giver of pleasure, and not to be a taker of pleasure). Another cause for homose*ual behavior is that a person wants to switch around the way the world is supposed to be; he wants to defy the laws of nature that Hashem created the world with. In other words, he doesn’t want his role as a man – he doesn’t act masculine, because he’d rather be more feminine (by being a taker). [Although this sounds similar to the first cause, it is not the same thing. In the first cause of homose*ual behavior, the root of the problem is because the person would rather be a taker of pleasure than a giver of pleasure. The second cause, though, also involves this factor of wanting to be a taker, but it is rooted in the fact that the man would be rather be more feminine than masculine.] A third cause for homose*ual behavior is that a person wants to remain alone, because he feels like he doesn’t need anybody. He is too independent. It can get to the point that a person is so conceited with himself that he thinks of himself as sort of like a G- d, which was the problem that Pharoah developed, as well as many other people throughout history. [ The solution for this, as was mentioned, is that if he is single, he needs to get married, so that he can realize that he is an incomplete being by himself. And if one is already married, he needs to feel like he needs his wife, because if not for her than he has no one whom he can give to; this will help him become more connected to his wife and thus lose his homose*cal tendencies as a result] ”. |
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Re: Shovavim: 42 days of opportunity 09 Jan 2023 15:37 #390680
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sleepy wrote on 09 Jan 2023 05:32:
Markz wrote on 08 Jan 2023 15:43: DavidT wrote on 08 Jan 2023 15:27: Hi I opened it up. It seems unreliable based off what he writes in the section on homosexuality (begins on page 53). How many people has this author helped in real life? I quote his concluding remarks on that topic. ”Altogether, we have found three reasons for homose*ual behavior. One cause is because a person doesn’t want to give pleasure and he only wants to take pleasure; therefore, he engages in a relationship in which only he enjoys and takes pleasure, and there is no one to receive his pleasure. (The solution for such homose*ual behavior is to become the giver of pleasure, and not to be a taker of pleasure). Another cause for homose*ual behavior is that a person wants to switch around the way the world is supposed to be; he wants to defy the laws of nature that Hashem created the world with. In other words, he doesn’t want his role as a man – he doesn’t act masculine, because he’d rather be more feminine (by being a taker). [Although this sounds similar to the first cause, it is not the same thing. In the first cause of homose*ual behavior, the root of the problem is because the person would rather be a taker of pleasure than a giver of pleasure. The second cause, though, also involves this factor of wanting to be a taker, but it is rooted in the fact that the man would be rather be more feminine than masculine.] A third cause for homose*ual behavior is that a person wants to remain alone, because he feels like he doesn’t need anybody. He is too independent. It can get to the point that a person is so conceited with himself that he thinks of himself as sort of like a G- d, which was the problem that Pharoah developed, as well as many other people throughout history. [ The solution for this, as was mentioned, is that if he is single, he needs to get married, so that he can realize that he is an incomplete being by himself. And if one is already married, he needs to feel like he needs his wife, because if not for her than he has no one whom he can give to; this will help him become more connected to his wife and thus lose his homose*cal tendencies as a result] ”. לעניות דעתי maybe once the gadol is disclosed on this forum we should not bash him.but thats what i think. to each his own. Any idea who the author is? I had no idea. It seems to be anonymous. I Google searched and found more info. He may be a great man, but you called him a Gadol when most of us never heard of him and have no idea who the author is. Apparently you know about him. Can you share more with us? |
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Re: Shovavim: 42 days of opportunity 09 Jan 2023 22:20 #390714
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Markz wrote on 08 Jan 2023 15:43:
DavidT wrote on 08 Jan 2023 15:27: Hi I opened it up. It seems unreliable based off what he writes in the section on homosexuality (begins on page 53). How many people has this author helped in real life? I quote his concluding remarks on that topic. ”Altogether, we have found three reasons for homose*ual behavior. One cause is because a person doesn’t want to give pleasure and he only wants to take pleasure; therefore, he engages in a relationship in which only he enjoys and takes pleasure, and there is no one to receive his pleasure. (The solution for such homose*ual behavior is to become the giver of pleasure, and not to be a taker of pleasure). Another cause for homose*ual behavior is that a person wants to switch around the way the world is supposed to be; he wants to defy the laws of nature that Hashem created the world with. In other words, he doesn’t want his role as a man – he doesn’t act masculine, because he’d rather be more feminine (by being a taker). [Although this sounds similar to the first cause, it is not the same thing. In the first cause of homose*ual behavior, the root of the problem is because the person would rather be a taker of pleasure than a giver of pleasure. The second cause, though, also involves this factor of wanting to be a taker, but it is rooted in the fact that the man would be rather be more feminine than masculine.] A third cause for homose*ual behavior is that a person wants to remain alone, because he feels like he doesn’t need anybody. He is too independent. It can get to the point that a person is so conceited with himself that he thinks of himself as sort of like a G- d, which was the problem that Pharoah developed, as well as many other people throughout history. [ The solution for this, as was mentioned, is that if he is single, he needs to get married, so that he can realize that he is an incomplete being by himself. And if one is already married, he needs to feel like he needs his wife, because if not for her than he has no one whom he can give to; this will help him become more connected to his wife and thus lose his homose*cal tendencies as a result] ”. What about the people who didn't choose to have ssa? Who don't want ssa? Feel shameful they have ssa? What about those who aren't selfish? Who don't want to "switch around the world" ? What about those who don't want to be lonely? |
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I'm sick of the Un-scientific approach of today's medical and social environment.
we will never heal and become a better society unless we realize that all people are addicts. Any thing we do that we aren't interested in is "addiction" and medicine doesn't fix addictions. Pain causes addiction and medicine cant fix pain. Unless we heal our pain, and become truama conscious so as not to cause others pain, we will never be living in a functioning human society. |
Re: Shovavim: 42 days of opportunity 09 Jan 2023 22:34 #390716
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Human being wrote on 09 Jan 2023 22:20:
Markz wrote on 08 Jan 2023 15:43: DavidT wrote on 08 Jan 2023 15:27: Hi I opened it up. It seems unreliable based off what he writes in the section on homosexuality (begins on page 53). How many people has this author helped in real life? I quote his concluding remarks on that topic. ”Altogether, we have found three reasons for homose*ual behavior. One cause is because a person doesn’t want to give pleasure and he only wants to take pleasure; therefore, he engages in a relationship in which only he enjoys and takes pleasure, and there is no one to receive his pleasure. (The solution for such homose*ual behavior is to become the giver of pleasure, and not to be a taker of pleasure). Another cause for homose*ual behavior is that a person wants to switch around the way the world is supposed to be; he wants to defy the laws of nature that Hashem created the world with. In other words, he doesn’t want his role as a man – he doesn’t act masculine, because he’d rather be more feminine (by being a taker). [Although this sounds similar to the first cause, it is not the same thing. In the first cause of homose*ual behavior, the root of the problem is because the person would rather be a taker of pleasure than a giver of pleasure. The second cause, though, also involves this factor of wanting to be a taker, but it is rooted in the fact that the man would be rather be more feminine than masculine.] A third cause for homose*ual behavior is that a person wants to remain alone, because he feels like he doesn’t need anybody. He is too independent. It can get to the point that a person is so conceited with himself that he thinks of himself as sort of like a G- d, which was the problem that Pharoah developed, as well as many other people throughout history. [ The solution for this, as was mentioned, is that if he is single, he needs to get married, so that he can realize that he is an incomplete being by himself. And if one is already married, he needs to feel like he needs his wife, because if not for her than he has no one whom he can give to; this will help him become more connected to his wife and thus lose his homose*cal tendencies as a result] ”. What about the people who didn't choose to have ssa? Who don't want ssa? Feel shameful they have ssa? What about those who aren't selfish? Who don't want to "switch around the world" ? What about those who don't want to be lonely? I think the author may be looking for a different word then "wants" or "desires". He may be looking at the word "is scared" or "has anxiety". He may be looking to say, there are 3 reasons/causes of homosexuality, 1-One cause is because a person 2-A person 3-A person I am not saying a agree or disagree with the author. |
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I'm sick of the Un-scientific approach of today's medical and social environment.
we will never heal and become a better society unless we realize that all people are addicts. Any thing we do that we aren't interested in is "addiction" and medicine doesn't fix addictions. Pain causes addiction and medicine cant fix pain. Unless we heal our pain, and become truama conscious so as not to cause others pain, we will never be living in a functioning human society. |
Re: Shovavim: 42 days of opportunity 10 Jan 2023 16:13 #390740
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Re: Shovavim: 42 days of opportunity 11 Jan 2023 20:12 #390774
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I'm sick of the Un-scientific approach of today's medical and social environment.
we will never heal and become a better society unless we realize that all people are addicts. Any thing we do that we aren't interested in is "addiction" and medicine doesn't fix addictions. Pain causes addiction and medicine cant fix pain. Unless we heal our pain, and become truama conscious so as not to cause others pain, we will never be living in a functioning human society. |
Re: Shovavim: 42 days of opportunity 11 Jan 2023 21:02 #390780
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Re: Shovavim: 42 days of opportunity 11 Jan 2023 21:46 #390785
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I'm sick of the Un-scientific approach of today's medical and social environment.
we will never heal and become a better society unless we realize that all people are addicts. Any thing we do that we aren't interested in is "addiction" and medicine doesn't fix addictions. Pain causes addiction and medicine cant fix pain. Unless we heal our pain, and become truama conscious so as not to cause others pain, we will never be living in a functioning human society. |
Re: Shovavim: 42 days of opportunity 11 Jan 2023 21:48 #390786
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I'm sick of the Un-scientific approach of today's medical and social environment.
we will never heal and become a better society unless we realize that all people are addicts. Any thing we do that we aren't interested in is "addiction" and medicine doesn't fix addictions. Pain causes addiction and medicine cant fix pain. Unless we heal our pain, and become truama conscious so as not to cause others pain, we will never be living in a functioning human society. |
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