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Re: Unwanted Ejaculation during sleep 23 Nov 2015 19:08 #269409

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it's not apikorsus b/c someone who says "i don't beleive in god" is not an apikorus, there needs to be study and consistency, not emotional arguments. i daresay that stephen hawking is an apikorus but i am not a mumcha on apikorsus and i could very well be wrong
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Re: Unwanted Ejaculation during sleep 23 Nov 2015 23:53 #269451

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Shlomo24 wrote:
it's not apikorsus b/c someone who says "i don't beleive in god" is not an apikorus, there needs to be study and consistency, not emotional arguments. i daresay that stephen hawking is an apikorus but i am not a mumcha on apikorsus and i could very well be wrong


the problem is not the level of mumcha. the problem is you did not read the post carefully. here is a quote:

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to say kabala is fairy tale, my dear shmuly, is apikorsus. i chalk it up to your probable lack of knowledge, and therefore, it is probably am haratzus. 
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Re: Unwanted Ejaculation during sleep 24 Nov 2015 19:51 #269539

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thank you for correcting me
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Re: Unwanted Ejaculation during sleep 26 Nov 2015 14:22 #269737

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peloni almoni wrote:
shmulyz18 wrote:
Hello Everyone, I have had not a wet dream in some time now, B'H.
I know that Kabbalah is kind of like a fairy tale- based explanation.
A book that I have is Kabballah based. It states that whenever you ejaculate at night, you waste holy souls. I ,personally, don't believe this to be true. A wet dream just happens at random. The book is called The Light of Ephraim.

I hope this everyone feel not as guilty.

shmuly z



my dear shmuly

a few points:

1. congrats on your accomplishments so far. you have made progress, and beezras hashem, you will grow more and more. as we say, keep on truckin'.

2. kaballa is perhaps the highest and most elite form of torah study. it was started when raziel hamalach gave the first kaballah sefer to adam harishon at the exit point of gan eden, continued by avraham avinu who wrote the sefer yetzira, rabbi nechunya ben hakana, rabbi akiva and rabbi yishmael writing the sefer habahir, midrash osios, and midrash heichalos respectively. and finally, rabbi shimon bar yochai with the zohar, which the ramak and arizal work to explain. during the times of the mishna, kabbala (called maaseh merkava - see second perek of chagiga) was only taught to students who met certain criteria. the gemara realtes that three tannaim reached further than they could handle, and were permanently harmed. during the rishonim, rabbi yehuda hachasid and his father rabbeinu shmuel (called in tosfos in gittin shmuel hanavi), the ramban, rokeach, the raavad, his son rabbeinu yitzchak sagi nahor, rabbeinu bachye, and the rikanti, were all noted kabbalists. many if not most of them were ashkenazim, as the ashkenazim only recently (1650's) started to shy away from kabala.
kabala is traced back to adam. to say kabala is fairy tale, my dear shmuly, is apikorsus. i chalk it up to your probable lack of knowledge, and therefore, it is probably am haratzus. nonetheless, for you to offer your "personal belief" and perspective against a sefer, you have to be well-versed in the subject yourself. for example, i would be a fool to read a book on brain surgery and argue with the author if i was not educated in the subject myself. why should the holy kabala be any less? are you well versed in it?
if yes, why would you call it fairy tale?
and if not, why do you argue in something you have no education in?

3. regarding the subject matter: al pi kabala, and al pi chazal, at times, keri at night may be a negative sign. but it must be dealt with properly. not dwelled upon and used for fuel or as an excuse for more acting out. and though it is always convenient to "believe" that it means nothing, and it does nothing - take a look in the yom kippur davening. part of the viduy is הרהרנו ביום ובאנו לידי קרי בלילה.
therefore, let us not focus on the past, let us focus on how to not focus on the past by focusing on the future.



Hello Peloni Almoni, I was actually raised conservative, so I do not understand a lot of Hebrew. Maybe you could explain some of the words to me, so I know what they mean.
My email is samzuriel@gmail.com. I do know who adam harishon is. But as far as the rest, I'm afraid I don't.

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Re: Unwanted Ejaculation during sleep 26 Nov 2015 14:42 #269738

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shmulyz18, Mr PA raised a concern, and I think you were both correct

I have a feeling you were calling kabala fairy tales based on the following info mentioned at this link HERE
"It has been degradingly drawn into pop culture where it has become commercialized by pseudo-spiritual "experts" who write of it profusely and "teach" it in various vicarious Kabbalah centers. Needless to say, these people are not teaching or learning real Kabbalah, which by definition can only be understood through proper transmission"

I am totally ignorant about kabbala.
If you want to read the gye humor twist on kabala
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Re: Unwanted Ejaculation during sleep 27 Nov 2015 20:30 #269822

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Hello everyone, I had a wet dream on Wednesday. I am kinda unsure on how to deal with these. I think that HaShem is trying to warn me about something. What it is, I don't know. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to stop thinking about woman? I think that is the cause of it. I got to go get ready for Shabbos. Good Shabbos.
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Re: Unwanted Ejaculation during sleep 27 Nov 2015 20:36 #269823

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shmulyz18 wrote:
Hello everyone, I had a wet dream on Wednesday. I am kinda unsure on how to deal with these. I think that HaShem is trying to warn me about something. What it is, I don't know. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to stop thinking about woman? I think that is the cause of it. I got to go get ready for Shabbos. Good Shabbos.
Yeah think about Shabbos the whole week instead of women
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Re: Unwanted Ejaculation during sleep 27 Nov 2015 21:19 #269824

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Thanks. Mark, I will try to think About Shabbos.
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Re: Unwanted Ejaculation during sleep 27 Nov 2015 21:25 #269825

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markz wrote:


Shmuly you're the best!!!!


thanks Mark. Your jokes on the depressed chill spot are great. You and Reb Guard make me laugh.

I hope You have a wonderful and peaceful Shabbos.

Shmuly
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