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Re: 1 step forward, 1 step back 18 Nov 2009 21:01 #29379

you are my inspiration. enough said!
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Re: 1 step forward, 1 step back 18 Nov 2009 21:57 #29401

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Wow! This is my first time checking out your thread and im amazed. Im also soooooooo happy for you that your by 40 already. Chazak Ve'ematz!! You talk so positivly im sure this s one of your secrets of success. Keep on pedaling!!!
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Re: 1 step forward, 1 step back 23 Nov 2009 21:59 #30206

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Today was rough.

I'm so tired. My sleep pattern is all out of whack.

And I've been pushing off an overdue paper for college for like a week.
And I've slipped a couple of times today. Nothing too bad. Just not activities a ben Torah should be involved in.


The good news?
I went to seder today, even if it was just for an hour. And I went to shiur for the first time in like a week. Even if I did sleep through most of it.

And I got a phone number of a girl I'm really interested in.


If only I could get past this damn paper hanging over my head.


Alright, that's enough for now. Off to take a nap.
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Re: 1 step forward, 1 step back 24 Nov 2009 07:32 #30279

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Okay, so I messed up the call with this girl.
It doesn't feel so good.

But here's the best consolation:

Knowing that 47 days ago today would have been a day where I fell multiple times.
Now, it's hardly an option.

Thank you Hashem!!!
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Re: 1 step forward, 1 step back 24 Nov 2009 12:06 #30292

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great attitude bahava. Dov always says that its very important to change our attitude. Or at least this is what i understand from him. Ok no giving up. Check out my siggy i think it may apply to your expierence yesterday. Keep up the good work. Hatzlacha. Your an inspiration for all of us. especially me whos trying to keep pace with you.
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Re: 1 step forward, 1 step back 24 Nov 2009 22:00 #30389

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In the merit of your progress, may Hashem help you find the right one!
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Re: 1 step forward, 1 step back 24 Nov 2009 23:51 #30423

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guardureyes wrote on 24 Nov 2009 22:00:

In the merit of your progress, may Hashem help you find the right one!


Amen Ken yehi ratzon.
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Re: 1 step forward, 1 step back 25 Nov 2009 07:38 #30470

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I found Dovs words in today's email really powerful and relevant to some of my particular struggles.
I'm posting a copy here for future reference.


Quote: "I feel drained right now. I feel like I've been fighting the whole entire
day."
Ok, Airbag and seatbelt time.... uh-oh.
Either the outer environment needs to change, or the inner environment does. One
of them has to go. If you believe it's from inside you, I do not understand how
anyone expects to "beat" a mental illness. Just go and ask any crazy person, maybe
he'll tell you.... Now, if it's really just "a ta'ava", then I understand - fight,
fight, fight. But if:
Quote: "I feel that if I can get past the hard times it will only get easier. But
I never can get past them."
... as you put it, then perhaps, maybe, it's time to give the entire fight up to
Hashem. To me, that means (step 1 [http://www.guardureyes.com/GUE/12Steps/12StepsStan.asp])
admitting to Him exactly what you want to do [i.e. pursue the lust], (step 2 [http://www.guardureyes.com/GUE/12Steps/12StepsStan.asp])
asking Him to help you just let go of the entire idea, to give it up completely
and trust in Him fully. And then (step 3 [http://www.guardureyes.com/GUE/12Steps/12StepsStan.asp])
to take the actions of letting it go, like getting busy with something else; preferably
finding some way to give or love someone: people, or lehavdil, Hashem, (or even
ourselves... if we really know how to).
And also, to me, it means agreeing to never take the credit for "winning" again.
As long as you admit you are nuts, and you admit you have no other hope but His
help, and you do what you can to make going about His business your priority right
now, then it's His business if you succeed or fail, not yours.
Sound crazy? Well, I think busting one's head against the wall for the 15,000th
time with the same losing derech - (only harder this time) - yet expecting things
to be entirely different this time - is pretty crazy, too :-)
Quote: "But it aint over till its over."
And when is that? Won't there be a next time? Yes, for those who let go of it each
time, it does get easier over time. But for those who just distract themselves from
it to get over it, I believe there is a residue from each struggle, that may not
go away. A feeling of, "well, I gave up that nice one, I deserve a consolation
prize" or, "poor me, I lost out on so much fun," or, "woohoo, I can control this
stuff, after all! So maybe I can use and enjoy it - and just stop it as soon as
it starts to get out of hand, no?". Those natural thought patterns would build
up in me over time until... you guessed it. And no wonder it's a tidal wave then!
(And then we act as though it's such a surprise!???)
I have no other explanation than the above for the very common phenomena of the
guy (like me) who could "go for a month, or so, until the pressure builds up", or
whatever. Or so many of the well-meaning folks here with 23 days, or 33 days, over
and over again for five years... you know what I mean. How else can anyone explain
that? Please let me know, will ya?
What people like me need is a psychic change. Not improvement, but a new derech.
Let Hashem figure out if it's called teshuvah or not. It's gotta be a different
fight, or else.
On a good day, I let the fight be His business, and my job is to do His work...
and when lust ideas occur to me, I admit to myself that I am not just another yid
with "a ta'yva", but rather, that I am "cracked" in the head. I have an allergy.
I am not able to lust like others can, and control it. They can perhaps, but not
I. So no wonder I need a Higher Power. I avoid it like fire by closing my eyes or
my brain and doing something else. I make a call to a friend and admit exactly how
sick I am. Then I go happily from there, completely free.
I don't need Hashem's power to help me "beat" this Yetzer Hara. I need him to remove
the lust from me. I need His help to get myself out of His way. I need to go about
His work, period. Not fight any battles.
A huge problem here is that if you just extract the surrender and trust in Hashem,
the whole thing still looks like some kind of winning. Some folks will totally mistake
the "closing of the eyes" or the "making a call to another addict" as the way we
fight it. It's not. It's just the actions we take to give it up. As many addicts
who actually use the steps [http://www.guardureyes.com/GUE/PDFs/The%2012-Steps%20and%2012%20traditions.pdf]
will attest, the total freedom from the nutty lust comes during the dialing of the
friends phone number, or during the prayer itself. Like when I say, "G-d, whatever
I am looking for in the image of that woman walking by, let me find it in You, instead."
Ahhhh. By the time I get up to the second half of the word G-d, we feel the whole
thing evaporating.
It may not work perfectly all the time, but we stay sober from the bottom line behavior
this way, no matter what. And over time, our heads change. The struggles are surrendered.
There is no more pressure build up. If there is, then we take an honest look at
our first step [http://www.guardureyes.com/GUE/12Steps/12StepsStan.asp], perhaps
with a friend, and go on from there.
Quote: "I can use chizuk right now."
Well, I don't know if that constituted chizuk, but sometimes we don't need encouragement,
rather we need someone to remind us that "I have no one to rely on but myself"(as
in the story in the Gemara [http://rehab-my-site.com/guardureyes/forum/index.php?topic=944.msg18019#msg18019]
of the sex-addict, Rav Elazar Ben Drudya), by holding up a mirror. I hope you see
that Hashem is in there right next to you, no matter what.
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Re: 1 step forward, 1 step back 30 Nov 2009 02:08 #31187

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Alright people.

I haven't finished my overdue papers yet. And the anxiety has led me to almost slip up.
This used to be a very common pattern for me. For a number of years, the night before something big was due, I was almost guaranteed to fall at least once.

It was part of my procrastination routine.
And it helped me feel in control.

But not anymore.

I've taken some real steps towards getting these essays done with.
And if I feel like procrastinating, I'll post here, thank you very much.

As far as the feeling of control goes, I suppose the answer is trust.
Trust that even if I fail this class, I'll still be okay.
Trust that even if this is the worst essay I've ever written, I'll still be okay.
Trust that if I just sit down for a couple of more hours, I'll have a finished product to hand in.

My life is too valuable to waste worrying about essays. To act out against the will of my Creator.


Okay, I think its out of my system. Back to these papers.
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Re: 1 step forward, 1 step back 30 Nov 2009 02:44 #31191

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b'ahava
last night, i was where you are right now.
you can do it.
it is possible.
and when you're done, and you realize that you just pulled an all-nighter without slipping, you are going to be incredibly proud of yourself. 

Hatzlocho!
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Re: 1 step forward, 1 step back 30 Nov 2009 11:10 #31214

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What beautiful Yidden!
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Re: 1 step forward, 1 step back 04 Dec 2009 08:57 #32178

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Here's a great vart I heard from a Rosh Yeshiva of mine on this week's parsha, VaYishlach. I think it can help us all in our attitude towards this challenge.

When Yaakov demands a beracha from the angel of Esav, the angel names him Yisrael "ki sarita im elokim v'im anashim vatukhal" - "because you have striven with God and with men and have prevailed."

Why wasn't his name changed to tukhal? Wasn't that the victory of Yaakov, that he succeeded?

So the parsha is teaching us that the focus is not the result, not the fact that Yaakov succeeded in his struggle. Rather, the focus must be the struggle itself.

Yaakov's bracha was based on the fact that he struggled, that he cared, that he wanted to do something. The results were out his hands. The results were given to him mimeila from him Creator.

Now we can understand why this was manifest in a change in his name. His identity, and the identity of his children forever, is based on the fact that he struggles to improve, and not the results.

And this is the true bracha of klal yisrael.
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Re: 1 step forward, 1 step back 05 Dec 2009 18:21 #32396

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I ACED that vort!

(ACE stands for Another Chizuk E-mail)  :D
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Re: 1 step forward, 1 step back 05 Dec 2009 19:41 #32407

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b'ahava,

That was really gevaldik!
Thanks so much for sharing it.

Hope the yh isnt listening;
he doesnt deserve any warnings!
Hashem is addicted to you! Feel His hugs!"Sheva yipol tzaddik VKUM"
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Re: 1 step forward, 1 step back 05 Dec 2009 21:49 #32435

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b'ahava wrote on 04 Dec 2009 08:57:

Here's a great vart I heard from a Rosh Yeshiva of mine on this week's parsha, VaYishlach. I think it can help us all in our attitude towards this challenge.

When Yaakov demands a beracha from the angel of Esav, the angel names him Yisrael "ki sarita im elokim v'im anashim vatukhal" - "because you have striven with God and with men and have prevailed."

Why wasn't his name changed to tukhal? Wasn't that the victory of Yaakov, that he succeeded?

So the parsha is teaching us that the focus is not the result, not the fact that Yaakov succeeded in his struggle. Rather, the focus must be the struggle itself.

Yaakov's bracha was based on the fact that he struggled, that he cared, that he wanted to do something. The results were out his hands. The results were given to him mimeila from him Creator.

Now we can understand why this was manifest in a change in his name. His identity, and the identity of his children forever, is based on the fact that he struggles to improve, and not the results.

And this is the true bracha of klal yisrael.
Hey baahava you stole that post right out of my hand. I was planningon posting it till i saw it here.
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