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Kill it at Conception not at Birth 22 Jul 2014 14:27 #235667

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I have learned from experience how important it is to kill the lust as soon as it arises, and not to wait until it develops into a fall.

I recently came across this saying concerning temptation and lust.

Don't try to stop the process near the end; stop it near the beginning. people are tempted when they are carried away and enticed by their own lusts.
“When lust has conceived, it gives birth to sin." You must stop it at the point of conception!
Don’t wait to try to stop it at the point of birth. You want to stop it at conception, not after it has been conceived and run through a period of pregnancy (if you will) and is about to give birth to the sin. You don't try to stop it at that point. You resist and oppose the first risings of the flesh and it's pleasures, immediately upon, or as close as possible to conception.

Re: Kill it at Conception not at Birth 22 Jul 2014 15:36 #235668

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shivisi wrote:
I have learned from experience how important it is to kill the lust as soon as it arises, and not to wait until it develops into a fall.

I recently came across this saying concerning temptation and lust.

Don't try to stop the process near the end; stop it near the beginning. people are tempted when they are carried away and enticed by their own lusts.
“When lust has conceived, it gives birth to sin." You must stop it at the point of conception!
Don’t wait to try to stop it at the point of birth. You want to stop it at conception, not after it has been conceived and run through a period of pregnancy (if you will) and is about to give birth to the sin. You don't try to stop it at that point. You resist and oppose the first risings of the flesh and it's pleasures, immediately upon, or as close as possible to conception.
I wish i had practiced this a couple days ago I would have still been clean
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Re: Kill it at Conception not at Birth 22 Jul 2014 17:00 #235674

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So true. Something that can never be said enough times.

How does the saying go, better an ounce of prevention than a pound of cure. Once you start down the rabbit hole, it is so hard to get out of it.

Last week I fed my lust so bad, that it took me 2 to 3 days to get back under control. Better has I done nothing in the first place.
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Re: Kill it at Conception not at Birth 22 Jul 2014 21:36 #235695

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Thanks Shivs! the first sip principle! So true!
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Re: Kill it at Conception not at Birth 30 Jul 2014 03:21 #236364

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I agree 100%.

PS. I am a fanatical believer in medicine to cure everything -- depression, pain, lust. Some antidepressants do kill lust.

Re: Kill it at Conception not at Birth 11 Sep 2014 15:12 #239378

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ok chevrah should we start a "where is shivisi campaign" or thread,

Re: Kill it at Conception not at Birth 11 Sep 2014 15:39 #239379

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that's why it's important to have personal connections with the fellows, for when someone goes into hibernation, we have his info that were able to attempt wakin' him from his slumber.

Let us 'hope' that all is well by him.
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Re: Kill it at Conception not at Birth 11 Sep 2014 16:05 #239381

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I actually Pm'd him some time ago, and just this week sent him an email.

Still haven't gotten a reply
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Re: Kill it at Conception not at Birth 12 Sep 2014 00:24 #239418

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i also pm'd him didn't either hear from him,

does anyone have a email or number so they can try to touch base?

Re: Kill it at Conception not at Birth 12 Sep 2014 02:14 #239424

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Thanx to all of you who were asking about me.
I'm still clean BH but Im not so involved in the site anymore.
I wish all the chevra great Hatzlocho and Ksiva Vachasima Tova.
Special thanx to Yankel (Pidaini) for calling me.
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Re: Kill it at Conception not at Birth 12 Sep 2014 02:36 #239425

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Nice to hear from you.

Wishing you hatzlacha in ale inyonim.

Ksiva vchasima tova!

Re: Kill it at Conception not at Birth 12 Sep 2014 03:47 #239427

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shivisi wrote:

I'm still clean BH but Im not so involved in the site anymore.



????????????????

we sure miss those long and deep posts

thank for coming by at least to respond!!!

ksiva vchasima tova and much nachas from yourself and family!!!
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