hi everyone!
this may seem a little diffrent but it is tried and true.
whatever it is that you are struggling with, in our case it sexual lust..porn..
we all know that we are most vunerable when we are feeling down.

(now, this is not to suggest that what i'm about to say is the end to all of our problems
however it will definitly help)

we all know that when we are well rested we feel good. when we eat right we feel healthhy. correct?

therefore my suggestion is get 8 hours of sleep a night..eat right and you will be happier
once you feel happier and more refreshed it is easier to take on challenges

i believe that one of the tactics of the satan is to tell us, "that if you sleep 8 hours
and eat right (very minumal table sugar) you are a nerd..looser...get a life
the only real way to get anything done is to go on 5 hours of sleep
and do not waste your time on eating properly..."

trust me, a lot of struggles can be avoided if we feel right.

now again i'm not suggesting that this is "thee" answer, but try it,...se what happens

special message to teenager and unmarried young bochurim
once you are married and have children, you no longer have the freedom to get 8 hours
of sleep on a contstant basis. therefore take advantage now....

Ditto about it all.
While acting out heavily, I was getting 3-4 hours a night, then getting sick every Shabbos and cleaning up until I was ready for work again Sunday or Monday. That went on for about 7 or 8 years.
After getting sober, I started to see that that crazy sleep pattern was making it too hard for me to stay sober, so it finally had to change. My goal was always to get 8-9 hours per night but what actually ended up working for me was getting 5-7 hours and waking up early to learn with a chevra before shacharis (oh yeah, and actually davening shacharis like a normal Jew, for a change, too).
After all, how precious can my sobriety be, if I feel crappy all the time? And it needs to be precious to me, to protect it at any cost.

Very well said! Thanks for sharing this. I feel the same way! When I have not. Enough sleep everything is a big deal!  when im well rested we have the ability to handle even the biggest deal!

Thanks so much for sharing this

Good luck

Love and Prayers

Noorah

I had a rough day and part of it was cuz I stayed up late last night.

there are those people who believe the answer to everything lies in 8 hours of sleep...youre an sa? sleep 8 hours! youre fat? sleep 8 hours...ran out of quarters at the laundrymat? sleep 8 hours....

then there are others that believe the answer to everything lies is 8 glasses of 8 ounces of water....ever notice how its always 8...i believe in none of it...then again, i dont sleep, and dont drink water and have all kinds of problems so what do i know...

You need to work on this and do hard work, BUT sleep make sit easier.

well i agree. maybe not 8 but the y''h finds it easy to get me when my resistance is low.
that's when i'm tired, sad, or stressed. so aiming for more sleep is helpful!

Rage AT Machine wrote on 08 Oct 2009 02:12:

Just wait for Sh'mini Atzeres, buddy.

Rage AT Machine wrote on 08 Oct 2009 02:12:


RAM,

I disagree with you for 8 reasons . . .  :D ;D

Also - might I suggest exercise? When I was exercising for 45 mins every day, I felt happier and able to challenge all life threw at me (have started exercising again - and i'm starting to feel good again).
Also, it's a great time to listen to shiurim.

I think many of us have a very hard time falling asleep at night.
We try to just "get by" the day,and we usually come out with alot of stress,and at night is when we "live" and try to relax.
I personally hate getting up in the morning and delay that moment until I mamesh have to get up.
Why?Cause that means less hours having to be up and depressed.
Our life basically becomes about just getting through the day(which is really what life is)and staying up the nights (fantasy and escape).
Basically we are not so much living really.
Interesting.

Well, I guess if we just sleep 8 or 9 hours each night, exercise an hour or two each day, and spend the rest of our time drinking water, we won't have any time to do anything wrong.

I think there's a gemarra sort of like that.

dmaot wrote on 09 Oct 2009 06:53:

It was actualy reported in the papers that walking in general produces the "feel good" hormones, and when you feel good about yourself you don't want to ruin that.