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Re: For how long by now? 03 Apr 2013 16:48 #204162

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day 5.

Elya, what do you mean??


btw. 've just downloaded the big book of a.alk. is there anything i have to know before starting reading it??
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Re: For how long by now? 04 Apr 2013 10:53 #204189

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RT. wrote:

btw. 've just downloaded the big book of a.alk. is there anything i have to know before starting reading it??


Yes. I read the Big Book a few times on my own, and it made no difference whatsoever. It wasn't until I worked through the Big Book, guided by someone more advanced in recovery, that I understood WHAT I was actually supposed to do, and just exactly HOW I was supposed to do it. Also, without guidance and group support, I am basically UNABLE to follow the instructions (you'll see many times the Big Book calls for working with other people--you can't do that just by reading the book on your own.) Furthermore, on my own, I have absolutely no accountability and no real motivation to follow through with any of the necessary recovery work.

I know that many other people share in this sentiment. If you're really serious about this, I would reccomend joining the next Cycle of the Duvid Chaim phone meetings. This information was in today's chizzuk E-mail:

Beginning next Monday - April 8th!
3 X a day: 8:30 AM, 12 PM, 10:20 PM EST
Find the time that works best for you!

You can find out all the information (call in number, etc) on the GYE website.

Good luck,

Elyah

Re: For how long by now? 04 Apr 2013 16:48 #204197

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Thank You

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Re: For how long by now? 08 Apr 2013 04:32 #204452

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Hi!
"Off the 18-wheeler and fine on this tricycle!", "I do not particularly care exactly which "lav" suicide is. I'm not interested in it for other reasons...and you are probably the same."

Re: For how long by now? 09 Apr 2013 01:03 #204607

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Hello.

Mmm, seems like day 10.

Re: For how long by now? 09 Apr 2013 09:18 #204643

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Hi!

Re: For how long by now? 10 Apr 2013 00:11 #204734

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Well. Hi! What do you want, Mister?

day 11.

Re: For how long by now? 12 Apr 2013 16:37 #204989

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day 14. If anybody is interested :D

By the way, what does this Karma mean?? (I mean, what is the shaychus to here?).

And by the way. Just recently something became clear to me. Even if I am sober. even if for a month or a year or a decade. I still can die (or get cancer or lose a limb) ANY moment. Oh my G. Scary world.

Re: For how long by now? 12 Apr 2013 17:29 #204992

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Important point, yes. Reality is good to recognize, indeed.
Where are you going with that in your heart, though? What's your point? (not to us here at all, but to yourself)
"Off the 18-wheeler and fine on this tricycle!", "I do not particularly care exactly which "lav" suicide is. I'm not interested in it for other reasons...and you are probably the same."

Re: For how long by now? 12 Apr 2013 18:15 #204999

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RT. wrote:
day 14. If anybody is interested :D


Congrats!

--Elyah

Re: For how long by now? 12 Apr 2013 21:48 #205063

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RT. wrote:

And by the way. Just recently something became clear to me. Even if I am sober. even if for a month or a year or a decade. I still can die (or get cancer or lose a limb) ANY moment. Oh my G. Scary world.

To quote someone we know and love, "what is the shaychus to here?
?דער באשעפער לאווט מיך אייביג. וויפיל לאוו איך עהם
My Creator loves me at all times. How great is my love for him?

Re: For how long by now? 12 Apr 2013 22:13 #205067

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OK, so he is not responding yet (probably Shabbos where he is), so here is where I was going, at least. (nobody ever need to ask me to comment, apparently! )

...yet if we continue with the porn-masturbation cycle, then how well will we be equipped to deal with the inevitable stuff you are referring to? I was always afraid Moshiach might (c"v) come right when I was somewhere shamefully acting out in my car, or that I'd be hit by a drunk and killed (really c"v this time) far from wherever I was supposed to be driving and everyone would wonder what I was doing there (and only half-dressed!?). What a shame.

But more to the point, we all get old (if we are lucky), we all lose things in this life (R"L), and we all die. They are all real and inevitable.

The familiar guy in his porn shell has all those same things, too! It's hard enough for a healthy person to accept those things and respond properly - how much worse is it to be woken up from a porn stupor into those harsh realities?

Thank-G-d we are clean today.
"Off the 18-wheeler and fine on this tricycle!", "I do not particularly care exactly which "lav" suicide is. I'm not interested in it for other reasons...and you are probably the same."

Re: For how long by now? 12 Apr 2013 22:15 #205068

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And by the way. Just recently something became clear to me. Even if I am sober. even if for a month or a year or a decade. I still can die (or get cancer or lose a limb) ANY moment. Oh my G. Scary world.


True. Such things are not in our control - Hashem yishmor.
But if something like that has to happen ch"v, wouldn't it be better if it happens with one's pants intact?
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Re: For how long by now? 14 Apr 2013 00:04 #205079

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@TZ: 1-0 for you (shkoach for making me laugh)

@eli: shkoech

@all: well. it's something obvious, don't really know why did I post it. maybe 'cuz it excited me so much. in any case it didn't make any nafka mina for me. it was not stated to be commented. ah, just nevermind.

day 15. I decided today to speak with a certain person and tell him everything (like it was suggested by Dov). I think I'll do it after Shvues.

a gitte voch.

p.s. Wow, I thought nobody would really read what I write here :D
have to be more serious next time.

Re: For how long by now? 14 Apr 2013 09:28 #205099

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RT. wrote:

I decided today to speak with a certain person and tell him everything (like it was suggested by Dov). I think I'll do it after Shvues.


Why wait?

--Elyah
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