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Chapter 2 - שבע יפול צדיק וקם
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Re: Chapter 2 - שבע יפול צדיק וקם 12 Jun 2023 18:37 #397382

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שבע יפול צדיק וקם wrote on 12 Jun 2023 17:00:

שבע יפול צדיק וקם wrote on 30 May 2023 01:46:
I will be finished with most of this after hours work in two weeks from tonight, but I don't want to wait for another two weeks to get myself together.

The only time we have is right now.

Day #21.

I usually am not satisfied when I don't masturbate and/or look at pornography. I am usually just not dissatisfied. In this case, I am actually feeling satisfied and proud of myself. I have one more night of the after hours work that I mentioned in that previous post. I didn't wait until those burdens were over and now I am three clean weeks later.

I believe as time goes on, and you become a new version of yourself - not just the same guy who happens not to have given in yet, the feeling of satisfaction will grow.

Keep it up! 

Re: Chapter 2 - שבע יפול צדיק וקם 15 Jun 2023 17:19 #397596

Day #24.

I just had my GenTech filter reinstalled on my computer. I handed in my unfiltered work phone and work laptop on Friday as that was my last day with that employer. The laptop that I got from my new employer has security filtering and monitoring software installed. I am in a very good place when it comes to devices. Having a filter is not a be-all end-all solution, but it certainly helps a lot. It is another barrier. Part of my keeping my guard up plan.

Re: Chapter 2 - שבע יפול צדיק וקם 18 Jun 2023 02:44 #397710

Day #27. Still at it. 

Re: Chapter 2 - שבע יפול צדיק וקם 03 Jul 2023 14:02 #398322

Day #7. I had a few masturbation-only falls. Still haven't looked at pornography since the beginning of my last streak, so over 40 days without looking at that stuff.

Re: Chapter 2 - שבע יפול צדיק וקם 07 Jul 2023 14:39 #398469

Recently, a GYE chaver asked me, "What does a fall consist of for you?"

I don't know what the official rules are, but after some thought, here is what a fall consists of for me. Any or all of the following:
  • Searching for illicit material (text, images, videos)--pornographic or non-pornographic--and certainly reading/viewing that material
  • Masturbating -- even starting and stopping before it's too late

Again, this is what a fall is for me, but it is helpful for me to make an actual definition. There have been many times throughout this journey when I have justified something as not a fall because I didn't necessarily include that in my undefined concept of a fall. I hope this helps in my struggle, but I also want my clean streak to be pure.

Thanks for reading this and have a good Shabbos.

Re: Chapter 2 - שבע יפול צדיק וקם 07 Jul 2023 17:01 #398475

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שבע יפול צדיק וקם wrote on 07 Jul 2023 14:39:
Recently, a GYE chaver asked me, "What does a fall consist of for you?"

I don't know what the official rules are, but after some thought, here is what a fall consists of for me. Any or all of the following:
  • Searching for illicit material (text, images, videos)--pornographic or non-pornographic--and certainly reading/viewing that material
  • Masturbating -- even starting and stopping before it's too late

Again, this is what a fall is for me, but it is helpful for me to make an actual definition. There have been many times throughout this journey when I have justified something as not a fall because I didn't necessarily include that in my undefined concept of a fall. I hope this helps in my struggle, but I also want my clean streak to be pure.

Thanks for reading this and have a good Shabbos.

It is good to have a definition, you know exactly what to stay away from. Nothing questionable for the other side to start pushing. At least in theory
"It is not our abilities that show who we truly are, it is our choices.” ---- Albus Dumbeldore (as per Chris Columbus)

Re: Chapter 2 - שבע יפול צדיק וקם 09 Jul 2023 00:56 #398481

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I was also machmir, and consider intentionally touching for arousal purpose a fall.
I needed that extra geder.


But the Gye rules are guardyoureyes.com/tools/90-day-chart/rules

What constitutes a "Fall" to require restarting the count?
There are "slips" and there are "falls". "Slips" do not require restarting the count. "Falls" do require restarting.
A "Fall" is one of the following things:


  1. Intentional masturbation (with finish)
  2. Intentionally viewing improper sites
  3. Intentionally calling inappropriate telephone numbers
  4. Intentionally seeking out and reading erotica

In regard to number 2 (and 4), if someone saw something by mistake and then got a little bit carried away and kept looking at it, or even if someone saw a link and couldn't resist clicking on it but then catches themselves within a few seconds, that would only be considered a "slip", not a "fall". However, if someone decides to actively pursue viewing, that would be considered a fall.

 *  NO, It's not all or nothing, just every bit counts!
 *  I failed yesterday, and I might fail tomorrow. But just for today I'm going to give it a try.
 *  Being curios made me lust and get into trouble.

אָמַר רבי יוחנן: אֵבֶר קָטָן יֵשׁ לוֹ לָאָדָם, מַרְעִיבוֹ = שָׂבֵעַ, מַשְׂבִּיעוֹ = רָעֵב

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Re: Chapter 2 - שבע יפול צדיק וקם 10 Jul 2023 00:57 #398509

Day #3. That definition from my previous post has helped me and surprisingly, or maybe not surprisingly, it has helped me be more careful with general shemiras einayim.
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