Geshmak! wrote on 30 Nov 2022 15:18:

I hate being that guy, but why not spice up my day a bit?

You say "most of klal yisrel doesn’t know abt these shmutz".
Ehem.
Most of Klal Yisrael doesn’t know (or at least practice) Torah U'Mitzvos (Unless you don't consider them part of Klal Yisrael).
As for your assumption that another 10,000 (frum) Yidden can use GYE, I don't know where you got that number from, but a) I'd say it's a wee bit higher than that, and b) even if it were only 10,000, getting them on GYE in the next year is a bit unrealistic. Not in every case can you bring the horse to the water...

Hi,
Have you tried this?
How did it go?

I did try but I don’t know how it went like if they are on gye or not… but if you want to know how conversation went then , you basically mean to ask that how do you approach a guy u think is going through this? So for me it’s not such a big deal I’m close to many people and I can just say in middle of a conversation did u ever hear of gye and if he’s no I’ll tell what I think abt it like I’ll say I heard it’s an amazing site that can help people that struggle with internet shmutz etc . But this probably won’t work for most people so I would say if you know someone struggling then you can give gye he’s email address and they send amazing emails that promote their organization. And of course he won’t know that it coming from you…

connected wrote on 30 Nov 2022 17:08:

First of all how’s your spicy day going?
And abt klal yisrel your so right… I should’ve said Frum yidden…
and abt getting the ‘more’ then 10,000 yidden nabach struggling in this area- so what’s the itzah?!?! Don’t just it’s not practical give an idea what can be done… imagine you see a yid drowning in a lake and there’s a guy trying a unpractical way to save him… would you say- hey buddy your doing something unpractical or you would jump in?!?! My heart goes out for people that are killing them selfs and are killing the happy lives of there wife’s and children. What can be done to let them know abt this organization?? Got a idea post it!

Geshmak! wrote on 30 Nov 2022 19:08:

Cool!

My question wasn't necessarily about how I should/could go about it. I was curious if and how you went about it... Just plain old curiosity...  

Thank you for your response! 

Shmuel wrote on 30 Nov 2022 19:17:

I actually do it all the time I’m in a position that I can first no body would ever imagine that I need it myself like they won’t think he’s for sure knows abt it cause he struggles himself and second I am a geshmakah guy  that likes to stam shmuz so it can come in…
( I’m just wondering how many guys are thinking to themselves, hey this must be… but truth is I don’t care- think it’s me come over and ask, if you got the guts 

I've got another question (if I may)...
It seems that many guys (maybe even most) deal with the struggles of internet pornography to some degree or another. That being the case, why is it so terrible if people know you also struggle? It may even be beneficial for them to realize that even a guy so great as you is challenged with this and would be encouraging to them.
(i dont mean you should go around giving everyone detail of all your deepest struggles...)

Dear connected I personally don’t think it so far off to say that in A year from today gye will have another 10,000 members,we’re just 3 away from 14,000 so remember to check next year November 30 if gye is past 15,000! 
Should we bet on this??but I don’t know you so how can you send me the money? I guess you can quick pay.

Shmuel wrote on 30 Nov 2022 19:41:

I’m not maskim with what you said abt most guys have struggles with porn… not in my circles at least  ( I’m chasdish must guys don’t even know what porn means BH) but even if your right and even if what u say that it’s good for people to know that guys like me go through this ( I’m not sure if I’m maskim to that ) still the answer is I’m just to embarrassed! Shocked???

Geshmak! wrote on 30 Nov 2022 19:45:

i guess the chassidishe fellows can't do arithmetic either (besides spelling).

and before everyone gangs up on me and reports me to the moderator, he himself has said so several times 

I think Geshmak is correct in that most erliche yiden have no clue what porn is, nor will they ever know, BH for that. 
But with sex addiction or masturbation, Shmuel is probably right. lots of people are addicted to sex they dont know it. There is a reason why Chazal banned touching oneself even to go to the bathroom or any number of things that chazal banned because one might get aroused. a few examples are, laying your back or front, going to the mikva with father, father in law, brother in law, etc. touching. 
Guys were always easily excited and todays world is much more exposed to exciting sights. 
So i think there are many, many more people that could benefit from GYE. However, unlike Geshmak here, im not Geshma in any sense.....
I dont have friends or people that would ever confide in me. So im all out of ideas how i can help. 

Geshmak! wrote on 30 Nov 2022 19:17:

My day is fantabulously awesome! Thanks for asking!

Letting more people know about this organization, while no doubt a great plan B, doesn't address the real issue.
We need to fix our society at its roots. People need to be healthy (not just physically), well educated, and stop caring about looking good for others. But that doesn't change on GYE. The solution for this would be a preventative measure. Too late for us adults.
Even if we can somehow magically fix every single Frum adult and then improve the way we educate and raise our youth, that doesn't change the world around us and the fact that we're open to that world. We inevitably become influenced by the outside world, whether other religions or secular cultures. They need to change too.

Basically, the only real solution is to get Moshiach on the scene and fix the world.
Till then, I can try to fix myself and those closest to me. I can try my best to prepare my children for the confusing world that awaits them.

P.S. I didn't say it's unpractical. What I said was that it's unrealistic to say that we'll get them all on the site in the next year. I'm all for unpractical ideas.

Trouble wrote on 30 Nov 2022 19:55:

Hey! Imma gang up. I'm as Chassidish as they come. OK, almost.
Geshmakster doesn't speak for us all.

Trouble wrote on 30 Nov 2022 19:55:

What does arithmetic mean?!?!

btw mr. trouble were you from the guys that reported us to the New York Times?!?!

Hey! I knew that chain of connection comes from a chusid!! But that chain has three rings one for chasdim one for litvaks and one for sfardem cause we really are all connected and we’re all the beloved children of H’ !! 

It really ain’t make a difference what our backgrounds are… the main thing is we’re all trying to get closer to our father in haven!