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Re: It's all their fault (and that's the truth!) 26 Mar 2017 17:15 #309227

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Workingguy wrote on 26 Mar 2017 16:43:
I think what some people are trying to figure out, and I put myself in that group, is are you kidding or serious? 

Yes exactly!
You hit it on the head!
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Re: It's all their fault (and that's the truth!) 26 Mar 2017 17:18 #309228

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Workingguy wrote on 26 Mar 2017 16:43:
There's a difference between venting about the difficulties caused by your interactions with other people, and actually blaming them. 

I am venting cause it stinks and I am blaming them because it's true.
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Re: It's all their fault (and that's the truth!) 26 Mar 2017 17:33 #309232

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Trouble wrote on 26 Mar 2017 17:15:

Workingguy wrote on 26 Mar 2017 16:43:
I think what some people are trying to figure out, and I put myself in that group, is are you kidding or serious? 



Yes exactly!
You hit it on the head!

looks like someone hit you on your head

And it might be your fault

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Re: It's all their fault (and that's the truth!) 26 Mar 2017 18:20 #309239

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Trouble wrote on 26 Mar 2017 17:18:

Workingguy wrote on 26 Mar 2017 16:43:
There's a difference between venting about the difficulties caused by your interactions with other people, and actually blaming them. 


I am venting cause it stinks and I am blaming them because it's true.

It's really not their fault. 

Re: It's all their fault (and that's the truth!) 26 Mar 2017 18:23 #309243

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Workingguy wrote on 26 Mar 2017 16:43:
There's a difference between venting about the difficulties caused by your interactions with other people, and actually blaming them. 


Is there really a difference? 
the common denominator is focusing on the other person or thing. 
Both will not get you very far in life, because there will always be someone that doesn't follow along the script as you thought it should go. 
one must strive to be whole with oneself and with Hashem and know that whatever happens to him is custom made for him. Either as a direct result of his own actions or as a way to work on himself. 

The story is told about some Rebbe in Europe that worked hard to get special wool from eretz yisraeldike sheep for his new tzitzis. after much effort he was pleased to have attained the desired wool. 
He excitedly gave the wool to his chasid, the expert tailor to make the beged for the tzitzis.
While working on the wool, the tailor got all confused and when he went to cut the whole in the middle for the head, he accidentally cut two wholes in the beged.
Embarrassed but with no choice he brought the two holed beged to the rebbe. He nervously awaited the Rebbe's reaction, fearing what divrey mussar he was going to get from him. 
the rebbe smiled and said: "gevaldig, that's exactly what i needed. a beged with two holes - one to stick my head in and one to test my kaas"

that's what it is all about. that's how we can live life. (I wish that one day I can give you an example from my own life, but in the meantime at least this is what I am striving for)

Re: It's all their fault (and that's the truth!) 26 Mar 2017 18:25 #309244

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unanumun wrote on 26 Mar 2017 18:23:

Workingguy wrote on 26 Mar 2017 16:43:
There's a difference between venting about the difficulties caused by your interactions with other people, and actually blaming them. 



Is there really a difference? 
the common denominator is focusing on the other person or thing. 
Both will not get you very far in life, because there will always be someone that doesn't follow along the script as you thought it should go. 
one must strive to be whole with oneself and with Hashem and know that whatever happens to him is custom made for him. Either as a direct result of his own actions or as a way to work on himself. 

The story is told about some Rebbe in Europe that worked hard to get special wool from eretz yisraeldike sheep for his new tzitzis. after much effort he was pleased to have attained the desired wool. 
He excitedly gave the wool to his chasid, the expert tailor to make the beged for the tzitzis.
While working on the wool, the tailor got all confused and when he went to cut the whole in the middle for the head, he accidentally cut two wholes in the beged.
Embarrassed but with no choice he brought the two holed beged to the rebbe. He nervously awaited the Rebbe's reaction, fearing what divrey mussar he was going to get from him. 
the rebbe smiled and said: "gevaldig, that's exactly what i needed. a beged with two holes - one to stick my head in and one to test my kaas"

that's what it is all about. that's how we can live life. (I wish that one day I can give you an example from my own life, but in the meantime at least this is what I am striving for)


For sure. But sometimes it is helpful to vent and complain as long as you know that the bottom line is that the real work starts with you. You're right that even that can be unhelpful, but sometimes being allowed to kvetch A little is helpful. Blaming on the other hand is not at all helpful

Re: It's all their fault (and that's the truth!) 26 Mar 2017 18:29 #309247

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when one kvetches, is it really true that deep down he his not blaming? can one really kvetch with no resentment involved?

Re: It's all their fault (and that's the truth!) 26 Mar 2017 18:29 #309248

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Workingguy wrote on 26 Mar 2017 18:20:

Trouble wrote on 26 Mar 2017 17:18:

Workingguy wrote on 26 Mar 2017 16:43:
There's a difference between venting about the difficulties caused by your interactions with other people, and actually blaming them. 



I am venting cause it stinks and I am blaming them because it's true.

It's really not their fault. 

How do you know?

I appreciate you saying that though....I think.
i'm all about that (substantial) bass, no trouble ....

if you're looking for trouble, you can email me @trouble69gye@outlook.com

Re: It's all their fault (and that's the truth!) 26 Mar 2017 18:32 #309249

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unanumun wrote on 26 Mar 2017 18:23:

Workingguy wrote on 26 Mar 2017 16:43:
There's a difference between venting about the difficulties caused by your interactions with other people, and actually blaming them. 



Is there really a difference? 
the common denominator is focusing on the other person or thing. 
Both will not get you very far in life, because there will always be someone that doesn't follow along the script as you thought it should go. 
one must strive to be whole with oneself and with Hashem and know that whatever happens to him is custom made for him. Either as a direct result of his own actions or as a way to work on himself. 

The story is told about some Rebbe in Europe that worked hard to get special wool from eretz yisraeldike sheep for his new tzitzis. after much effort he was pleased to have attained the desired wool. 
He excitedly gave the wool to his chasid, the expert tailor to make the beged for the tzitzis.
While working on the wool, the tailor got all confused and when he went to cut the whole in the middle for the head, he accidentally cut two wholes in the beged.
Embarrassed but with no choice he brought the two holed beged to the rebbe. He nervously awaited the Rebbe's reaction, fearing what divrey mussar he was going to get from him. 
the rebbe smiled and said: "gevaldig, that's exactly what i needed. a beged with two holes - one to stick my head in and one to test my kaas"

that's what it is all about. that's how we can live life. (I wish that one day I can give you an example from my own life, but in the meantime at least this is what I am striving for)

Maybe he got confused, for he didn't know how to cut a "whole" in middle of a beged.
i'm all about that (substantial) bass, no trouble ....

if you're looking for trouble, you can email me @trouble69gye@outlook.com

Re: It's all their fault (and that's the truth!) 26 Mar 2017 18:34 #309250

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Trouble wrote on 26 Mar 2017 17:18:

Workingguy wrote on 26 Mar 2017 16:43:
There's a difference between venting about the difficulties caused by your interactions with other people, and actually blaming them. 


I am venting cause it stinks and I am blaming them because it's true.

Mr. Trouble,

They are trying to tell you that one can vent just to vent (stam in da ventarein), or one can vent for some productive purpose. For you, what is it gonna be?
i'm all about that (substantial) bass, no trouble ....

if you're looking for trouble, you can email me @trouble69gye@outlook.com

Re: It's all their fault (and that's the truth!) 26 Mar 2017 18:42 #309252

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Trouble wrote on 26 Mar 2017 18:32:

unanumun wrote on 26 Mar 2017 18:23:

Workingguy wrote on 26 Mar 2017 16:43:
There's a difference between venting about the difficulties caused by your interactions with other people, and actually blaming them. 




Is there really a difference? 
the common denominator is focusing on the other person or thing. 
Both will not get you very far in life, because there will always be someone that doesn't follow along the script as you thought it should go. 
one must strive to be whole with oneself and with Hashem and know that whatever happens to him is custom made for him. Either as a direct result of his own actions or as a way to work on himself. 

The story is told about some Rebbe in Europe that worked hard to get special wool from eretz yisraeldike sheep for his new tzitzis. after much effort he was pleased to have attained the desired wool. 
He excitedly gave the wool to his chasid, the expert tailor to make the beged for the tzitzis.
While working on the wool, the tailor got all confused and when he went to cut the whole in the middle for the head, he accidentally cut two wholes in the beged.
Embarrassed but with no choice he brought the two holed beged to the rebbe. He nervously awaited the Rebbe's reaction, fearing what divrey mussar he was going to get from him. 
the rebbe smiled and said: "gevaldig, that's exactly what i needed. a beged with two holes - one to stick my head in and one to test my kaas"

that's what it is all about. that's how we can live life. (I wish that one day I can give you an example from my own life, but in the meantime at least this is what I am striving for)

Maybe he got confused, for he didn't know how to cut a "whole" in middle of a beged.

Oh! so now you are blaming me.

Re: It's all their fault (and that's the truth!) 26 Mar 2017 18:54 #309254

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unanumun wrote on 26 Mar 2017 18:42:

Trouble wrote on 26 Mar 2017 18:32:

unanumun wrote on 26 Mar 2017 18:23:

Workingguy wrote on 26 Mar 2017 16:43:
There's a difference between venting about the difficulties caused by your interactions with other people, and actually blaming them. 





Is there really a difference? 
the common denominator is focusing on the other person or thing. 
Both will not get you very far in life, because there will always be someone that doesn't follow along the script as you thought it should go. 
one must strive to be whole with oneself and with Hashem and know that whatever happens to him is custom made for him. Either as a direct result of his own actions or as a way to work on himself. 

The story is told about some Rebbe in Europe that worked hard to get special wool from eretz yisraeldike sheep for his new tzitzis. after much effort he was pleased to have attained the desired wool. 
He excitedly gave the wool to his chasid, the expert tailor to make the beged for the tzitzis.
While working on the wool, the tailor got all confused and when he went to cut the whole in the middle for the head, he accidentally cut two wholes in the beged.
Embarrassed but with no choice he brought the two holed beged to the rebbe. He nervously awaited the Rebbe's reaction, fearing what divrey mussar he was going to get from him. 
the rebbe smiled and said: "gevaldig, that's exactly what i needed. a beged with two holes - one to stick my head in and one to test my kaas"

that's what it is all about. that's how we can live life. (I wish that one day I can give you an example from my own life, but in the meantime at least this is what I am striving for)

Maybe he got confused, for he didn't know how to cut a "whole" in middle of a beged.

Oh! so now you are blaming me.

Well, did you say over the story rong, or was it the rebbe's fault? The blame's gotta go someplace.
i'm all about that (substantial) bass, no trouble ....

if you're looking for trouble, you can email me @trouble69gye@outlook.com

Re: It's all their fault (and that's the truth!) 26 Mar 2017 18:59 #309255

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Trouble wrote on 26 Mar 2017 18:54:

unanumun wrote on 26 Mar 2017 18:42:

Trouble wrote on 26 Mar 2017 18:32:

unanumun wrote on 26 Mar 2017 18:23:

Workingguy wrote on 26 Mar 2017 16:43:
There's a difference between venting about the difficulties caused by your interactions with other people, and actually blaming them. 






Is there really a difference? 
the common denominator is focusing on the other person or thing. 
Both will not get you very far in life, because there will always be someone that doesn't follow along the script as you thought it should go. 
one must strive to be whole with oneself and with Hashem and know that whatever happens to him is custom made for him. Either as a direct result of his own actions or as a way to work on himself. 

The story is told about some Rebbe in Europe that worked hard to get special wool from eretz yisraeldike sheep for his new tzitzis. after much effort he was pleased to have attained the desired wool. 
He excitedly gave the wool to his chasid, the expert tailor to make the beged for the tzitzis.
While working on the wool, the tailor got all confused and when he went to cut the whole in the middle for the head, he accidentally cut two wholes in the beged.
Embarrassed but with no choice he brought the two holed beged to the rebbe. He nervously awaited the Rebbe's reaction, fearing what divrey mussar he was going to get from him. 
the rebbe smiled and said: "gevaldig, that's exactly what i needed. a beged with two holes - one to stick my head in and one to test my kaas"

that's what it is all about. that's how we can live life. (I wish that one day I can give you an example from my own life, but in the meantime at least this is what I am striving for)

Maybe he got confused, for he didn't know how to cut a "whole" in middle of a beged.

Oh! so now you are blaming me.

Well, did you say over the story rong, or was it the rebbe's fault? The blame's gotta go someplace.

no it doesn't
very important thread: guardyoureyes.com/forum/20-Important-Threads/19180-FEEL-THE-HUGS%21%21%21" option="guardyoureyes.com/forum/20-Important-Threads/19180-FEEL-THE-HUGS%21%21%21">FEEL THE HUGS!!!

Re: It's all their fault (and that's the truth!) 26 Mar 2017 19:00 #309256

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Trouble wrote on 26 Mar 2017 17:18:

Workingguy wrote on 26 Mar 2017 16:43:
There's a difference between venting about the difficulties caused by your interactions with other people, and actually blaming them. 


I am venting cause it stinks and I am blaming them because it's true.

I blame others too...
Is there a recovery group for guys like us??

btw if trouble joins I'll sit the other side of the room, thanks...

no I'm not blaming him for anything...
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Re: It's all their fault (and that's the truth!) 26 Mar 2017 19:02 #309257

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unanumun wrote on 26 Mar 2017 18:29:
when one kvetches, is it really true that deep down he his not blaming? can one really kvetch with no resentment involved?


No of course not. But I don't think one has to. If one is willing to take responsibility they'll be fine, for sure at least to start.
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